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Good stuff. 1.5 years seems reasonable/fairly lenient for an operation that was taking in $161 million in bets. Do we know who Del Guidice was most closely connected to? I had heard 26th st. in the past. Given the scale of the operation, sure beats the kind of sentence you'd get hit with for, say, ...

It's incredible when you think about Accardo essentially overseeing the Outfit from the mob's golden age all the way through its arguable downfall. He went from Sam Giancana hanging with celebrities to rough guys like Sam Carlisi, Ferriola and DiFronzo.

Donald Angelini rap sheet Angelini, Donald - Rap Sheet.jpg My assumption is that this isn't showing his juvenile record if its essentially starting in the early 40s right? I'm not saying these guys were killers as teens, but they were tough fucking kids who were often violent. I agree there were ra...

Can you confirm what neighborhood Pat Marcy was from Snakes? Not to step over Snakes. When Gennaro Marciano (Patsy's father) arrived in Chicago from Napoli in 1909, he listed his cousin Antonio Marciano as already living on Ewing St (Polk). Pat was born in 1913, and in 1917 and 1920 the family live...

Donald Angelini rap sheet Angelini, Donald - Rap Sheet.jpg My assumption is that this isn't showing his juvenile record if its essentially starting in the early 40s right? I'm not saying these guys were killers as teens, but they were tough fucking kids who were often violent. I agree there were ra...

Can you confirm what neighborhood Pat Marcy was from Snakes?

Frank Calabrese told his son every member had to commit a murder before being inducted. Easy to imagine most did but wonder about the politicians. I could see some of the guys with high connections (politicians) or those that made tons of money in a specialized area (Angelini, for example) as not b...

Frank Calabrese told his son every member had to commit a murder before being inducted. Easy to imagine most did but wonder about the politicians. I could see some of the guys with high connections (politicians) or those that made tons of money in a specialized area (Angelini, for example) as not b...

One could also surmise that the last bastions of the MP crew were fighting the remnants of the Cicero/Buccieri/Infelise crew for power around the time of the Zizzo disappearance, which I think essentially ended that. I would add the Chiaramonte murder was also probably connected to that, given he wa...

Was this Bobby Covone who used to run numbers of the Infelise crew? https://patch.com/illinois/joliet/2-kohls-shoplifters-arrested-joliet-police-cops Bobby Covone's nickname should've been "Bobby Gavone". If not, major opportunity lost there. Also, James Coniglio should've been called &qu...

Was this Bobby Covone who used to run numbers of the Infelise crew? https://patch.com/illinois/joliet/2-kohls-shoplifters-arrested-joliet-police-cops Bobby Covone's nickname should've been "Bobby Gavone". If not, major opportunity lost there. Also, James Coniglio should've been called &qu...

Was this Bobby Covone who used to run numbers of the Infelise crew?
https://patch.com/illinois/joliet/2-koh ... olice-cops

I would also add I think the Outfit is the only family in modern history to essentially have a capo from every crew participating in a brutal double murder - the Spilotros. This was an incredibly stupid thing to do IMHO, as Lombardo, Calabrese, and even Marcello (whose link to the killing, if memor...

I was just made aware that Mike Posner's son Wally owns the Chicago Super Pawn in Logan Square on Fullerton. Gotta wonder why these guys are all invested in pawnshops - seems obvious for fencing, but there has to be more there. I was just doing some Googling and came across the pawnshop in a divorce...

I think the Outfit has had more higher-profile guys essentially tortured and executed in a quite brutal method than any other crime family I can think of - these guys were not just shot in the head and made to disappear, they wound up in car trunks covered in ice pick scars with throats slit, etc. G...