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- Aniello Migliore (DOB 1933) (Disagreement whether made yet) But could a non-made member have been present at the Apalachin meeting? I don´t think there is any evidence of him being present. His job seems to have been driving some of the participant to and from the meeting. Another guy that perhap...

Question. I've seen an old Genovese chart recently and it listed carmine Persicos jr as a button. Was he connected to Genovese at one time? Or was this a Valachi mistake. The chart has stars net to certain people that Valachi identified Thanks I'll hang up and listen Cheech Probably a mistake from ...

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all of you guys!

Greetings from white Sweden....(don´t jump up and down Pogo I mean it´s snowing over here).

B, Get well soon!

naaah I'm safe man Pizza ain't a morris park guy man ! When he used to be my age back in 1951 he grew up right around the corner from me! Shit I ate so much I cant fucking sleep...Fuck all of you Trust me, every Sunday about 500 envelopes get sent from Morris Park to Throggs Neck or South Florida d...

Due to special circumstances, yes members can fully retire. Gotti Jr comes to mind. Old members can also retire (being inactive), but they are still members and can be called upon if they are needed by the boss for something. But don´t think for a second that a member in his prime, can say bye bye t...

- For some reason, I have Joseph Messina listed as deceased in 1996. But I can´t find his SSDI entry. I don´t know where I got his YOD from. - Germaio Anaclerio is listed as Jerry Naclerio in SSDI. (Naclerio may have been his true name.) He died in 1975. - John Santoro died in 2005. Andrew Torregros...

Another article claims Francesco Palmeri is the number three guy. That would make him the consigliere. How stupid are these guys anyway? In connection with this investigation is a man, arrested last year in Bogota for international drug trafficking. In this day and age, what the heck make these guys...

You really do have a way with words. :mrgreen: Pogo He does and he´s an excellent poster. Chris, don´t feel sorry for falling deep into a "rabbit hole" when discussing ancient history. We all love to read your contributions to this site. And the well researched article by you, Rick and Le...

JCB1977 wrote:

phatmatress wrote:

I don't know Thom Jones, never really paid attention to any of his posts.

I don´t like his music, although "Delilah" is pretty cool...

It only specified Castellano and Gallo as Acting, Dellacroce could have been the official. The Gennaro regime (formerly under Joseph Franco, then Carmine Lombardozzi) was probably even larger than this, just listed the known members. It is the same meeting that was held at Leonardo Grillo's home, c...

I didn´t know where exctly to put this post so I put it in this section. Over on the old forum, there were talks about creating something like a "wiki page", directly linked and attached to this forum. On this "wiki page" certain members could post and edit the stories put up the...

JD, you say that the books were officially reopened in 1976. But what about Vincent Cafaro´s statement that he was made in 1974 with Patsy Genese? The only explanation of this would be that Cafaro (just like Michael Franzese) was wrong about the year. What is your opinion on this? In 1988 he said h...

Was Artuso one of the shooters on the Castellano hit?

I think he was one of the four designated shooters but he never fired any shots. I think his gun jammed or something? I could be wrong though.

Where does the "This is for you, Frank" line originally come from? A witness? Like a lot of the more famous stories from mob lore, I question how much of this hit attempt went down the way it's been described. I don't have anything that disagrees with the established story except gut feel...

Perhaps it was only meant as a warning? Frank had a lot of respect. I know you guys are going to say that it was wouldn't been a very risky shot but still... It's just a little too sloppy for someone who would continue to rise through the ranks all the way to becoming boss. I find it very hard to b...