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Re: Schenectady NY

by Newyorkempire » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:28 am

B. wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:26 am Another Colombo connection is that they inducted Dominick Bretti into their Family. He was based in Utica.
Really? Always thought he was a Maggadino guy.

Re: Schenectady NY

by B. » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:26 am

Another Colombo connection is that they inducted Dominick Bretti into their Family. He was based in Utica.

Re: Schenectady NY

by B. » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:15 pm

Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:12 pm
B. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:51 pm
UTC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:39 pm B, what's your take on Bernardi's affiliation, if any? He did have a large organization.
No clue on him -- I will look to see what I can find.

What's interesting is that in addition to the Profaci-Magliocco clan having close ties to Schenectady and Albany, Carmine Persico had a relationship with the Utica crew. His property upstate wasn't super close to Utica but apparently they interacted in the general area.
Any idea who specifically in Utica? Existing reports?
Can't recall offhand and maybe a "relationship" is overstating it but they did make contact. If I remember right it was Rosario Mancuso who had other ties to NYC Families. Persico was also supposed to mediate the Buffalo dispute on behalf of the Commission according to the Palma Boys tapes.

The FBI surveilled Sam Grio and Joe Falcone at Joe Colombo's upstate property in 1966 too.

Re: Schenectady NY

by Newyorkempire » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:12 pm

B. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:51 pm
UTC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:39 pm B, what's your take on Bernardi's affiliation, if any? He did have a large organization.
No clue on him -- I will look to see what I can find.

What's interesting is that in addition to the Profaci-Magliocco clan having close ties to Schenectady and Albany, Carmine Persico had a relationship with the Utica crew. His property upstate wasn't super close to Utica but apparently they interacted in the general area.
Any idea who specifically in Utica? Existing reports?

Re: Schenectady NY

by B. » Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:51 pm

UTC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:39 pm B, what's your take on Bernardi's affiliation, if any? He did have a large organization.
No clue on him -- I will look to see what I can find.

What's interesting is that in addition to the Profaci-Magliocco clan having close ties to Schenectady and Albany, Carmine Persico had a relationship with the Utica crew. His property upstate wasn't super close to Utica but apparently they interacted in the general area.

Re: Schenectady NY

by UTC » Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:39 pm

B, what's your take on Bernardi's affiliation, if any? He did have a large organization.

Re: Schenectady NY

by UTC » Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:30 pm

PolackTony wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:08 pm
JoelTurner wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:24 pm Would Saratoga Springs have been in the same metropolitan area as Schenectady? It’s less than 40 minutes away.

There’s a racetrack there and there were underground casinos known as “Lake Houses”.

Luciano, Costello, Adonis, etc. were supposedly operating in that area. Meyer Lansky did 3 months in prison over there in 1953.
Yeah, Saratoga Springs is considered part of the Capital District metro area (Albany-Schenectady-Troy).
And only about 25 miles from vacation spot Lake George

Re: Schenectady NY

by Moscone65 » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:53 am

I hear there are calabrians there today (also in nearby Albany) with ties to the calabrese in Toronto. Relatives and such

Re: Schenectady NY

by B. » Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:32 pm

Yep, I was thinking of that.

Not sure that Sylvester Battaglia was involved in much underworld activity despite being a member in Albany. His brother Gus was never ID'd as a member but the Falcones and Mancuso had a banquet in his honor when he moved to Arizona and Joe Bonanno neither confirmed/denied if Battaglia was from the "tradition" but said he met JFK at an event at Gus Battaglia's ranch. They seem like typical Termini mafiosi who were outwardly legitimate and politically well-connected.

The FBI said Joe Magliocco called Sylvester Battaglia so that could trace back to the Profacis' early presence in the area.

Re: Schenectady NY

by JoelTurner » Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:13 pm

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Apparently they were thrown out of the area by a Doc Farone. This was Louis Farone, not made, a local character prominent in the area.

Re: Schenectady NY

by B. » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:42 pm

UTC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:00 pm
B. wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:57 pm Remembered that a later guy active in that area was Bonanno member Paul DiCocco with the Galante decina.
He's kind of hard to pin down. He was also involved with Skyball and Al Bruno, the Binghamtown Bufalinos, and even Violi and Cotroni.
He was a confirmed Bonanno member but you're right that he had partnerships with members of many Families. No idea how Galante originally recruited him.
JoelTurner wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:24 pm Would Saratoga Springs have been in the same metropolitan area as Schenectady? It’s less than 40 minutes away.

There’s a racetrack there and there were underground casinos known as “Lake Houses”.

Luciano, Costello, Adonis, etc. were supposedly operating in that area. Meyer Lansky did 3 months in prison over there in 1953.
The Falcone crew tried to get involved or maybe did have involvement in gambling there.

Re: Schenectady NY

by PolackTony » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:08 pm

JoelTurner wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:24 pm Would Saratoga Springs have been in the same metropolitan area as Schenectady? It’s less than 40 minutes away.

There’s a racetrack there and there were underground casinos known as “Lake Houses”.

Luciano, Costello, Adonis, etc. were supposedly operating in that area. Meyer Lansky did 3 months in prison over there in 1953.
Yeah, Saratoga Springs is considered part of the Capital District metro area (Albany-Schenectady-Troy).

Re: Schenectady NY

by JoelTurner » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:24 pm

Would Saratoga Springs have been in the same metropolitan area as Schenectady? It’s less than 40 minutes away.

There’s a racetrack there and there were underground casinos known as “Lake Houses”.

Luciano, Costello, Adonis, etc. were supposedly operating in that area. Meyer Lansky did 3 months in prison over there in 1953.

Re: Schenectady NY

by UTC » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:03 pm

DiCocco, by the way, was the successor to Tony Bernardi as racket boss of Schenectady. Bernardi, I believe, was an associate or perhaps even a soldier in Falcone's Buffalo crew.

Re: Schenectady NY

by UTC » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:08 pm

Genovese guy Paul (?) Campo was from there too.

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