by gohnjotti » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:33 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:13 pm
gohnjotti wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:00 pm
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:35 am
Great write up gohn.....
That Samperi was standup, a shame his rat capo was too weak to get payback for him, also a shame they couldnt win at the table, maybe this type of stuff is what Borello was referring to when he said they were barely a family....
Yeah, the Colombos are the biggest backstabbers out of NY's Five.
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:16 am
So, Andy Mush has both his kids in life?
I think he's got a lot of kids, but yes both JoJo (died 2007) and Billy Russo were involved in the Life, although Billy seems to be a little more on the legit side of things, just going off the fact that Dino Calabro testified that his nickname was "the Paralegal," he hasn't been arrested during his 30+ years as a made member, and Calabro couldn't recall any crimes committed by Billy other than loansharking.
With that being said, Are all of his kids in the life in one way or another? You hear Andy Mush, everybody knows, but his kids not so much. Maybe he raised more old school, traditional in a sense. Not like some of the other guys who got their kids in life. Im not saying anything about whats right or wrong bout getting your kid(s) into the life. It seems maybe if you were, Mushs was the way to go about it.
Well, his son JoJo died in prison, so you can't exactly call him a benchmark of success.
But I see what you're saying. Andy Mush's sons never seemed, to me, to fit the stereotype of most Mafia sons, which is arrogant, flashy and incompetent. You know, most people picture spoiled brats like Whitey Stango or, hell, Joe Amato Jr. is a great example. But Mush's sons appear to be pretty capable on their own. JoJo Russo took over his father's rackets and crew, and expanded his already-large loansharking book into the hundreds of thousands of dollars during the late 1980s/early 1990s. He was also a big deal in the Persico faction at such a young age, coordinating hits and taking part in high level Persico faction meetings. I don't think any of the former members from that time have a bad thing to say about JoJo either. Meanwhile you hear about guys like Carmine Sessa, who was always fainting at the Persico faction meetings when he heard bad news.
Then you've got Billy Russo who was his dad's driver in the 1990s, but has also ventured into legitimate businesses and owns property in NY and Florida, including the house where Andy Mush lives now IIRC.
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Great write up gohn.....
That Samperi was standup, a shame his rat capo was too weak to get payback for him, also a shame they couldnt win at the table, maybe this type of stuff is what Borello was referring to when he said they were barely a family....
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Yeah, the Colombos are the biggest backstabbers out of NY's Five.
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So, Andy Mush has both his kids in life?
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I think he's got a lot of kids, but yes both JoJo (died 2007) and Billy Russo were involved in the Life, although Billy seems to be a little more on the legit side of things, just going off the fact that Dino Calabro testified that his nickname was "the Paralegal," he hasn't been arrested during his 30+ years as a made member, and Calabro couldn't recall any crimes committed by Billy other than loansharking.
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With that being said, Are all of his kids in the life in one way or another? You hear Andy Mush, everybody knows, but his kids not so much. Maybe he raised more old school, traditional in a sense. Not like some of the other guys who got their kids in life. Im not saying anything about whats right or wrong bout getting your kid(s) into the life. It seems maybe if you were, Mushs was the way to go about it.
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Well, his son JoJo died in prison, so you can't exactly call him a benchmark of success.
But I see what you're saying. Andy Mush's sons never seemed, to me, to fit the stereotype of most Mafia sons, which is arrogant, flashy and incompetent. You know, most people picture spoiled brats like Whitey Stango or, hell, Joe Amato Jr. is a great example. But Mush's sons appear to be pretty capable on their own. JoJo Russo took over his father's rackets and crew, and expanded his already-large loansharking book into the hundreds of thousands of dollars during the late 1980s/early 1990s. He was also a big deal in the Persico faction at such a young age, coordinating hits and taking part in high level Persico faction meetings. I don't think any of the former members from that time have a bad thing to say about JoJo either. Meanwhile you hear about guys like Carmine Sessa, who was always fainting at the Persico faction meetings when he heard bad news.
Then you've got Billy Russo who was his dad's driver in the 1990s, but has also ventured into legitimate businesses and owns property in NY and Florida, including the house where Andy Mush lives now IIRC.