by Lupara » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:02 pm
bert wrote:scagghiuni wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:16 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:46 pm
Definitely not. Just pointing out how it is a bit of myth about LE ignoring the mob before the 1980s since a large portion, if not a majority, of the guys have did time in the decades before then.
Pogo
the point is that they fought it as it was not a mafia group but a normal gang, same in italy when there were not all the current anti-mafia laws... yes, some members was arrested and did some times in prison, but rarely sentenced to life, hard sentences, there were not rats who testimonied in a trial, no witness protection program, no rico etc.
A lot of guys got hard sentences, one guy in the NYPD Mafia file book did 37 years, his name was Sebu, or a similar spelling. Time was harder and tougher than too, and don''t forget that cops and guards could knock the shit out of anyone they felt like. Harry Mainone and Frank Abbadasher (sp?) went to the electric chair. Most old time members did reform school time, and had such a rough time growing up that to some, prison was not so bad. The guys growing up in a nice area, in a safe environment are not going to stand up to prison as well.
At the same time mob members had a lot more priviliges in prison than nowadays. The scenes in Goodfellas showing the boys in prison were accurate. Prison life wasn't that bad for mobsters back then because of their influence and power outside. Many guards could be bribed and some guys lived like royalty in prison with plenty of room, good food, many friends around and perhaps even had access to women. It's not that hard doing time like that.
In Canada shit like that still happens. Desjardins was treated like a king when he was inside. Over there it's comparable to what you see in a movie such as Un Prophete.
[quote="bert"][quote=scagghiuni post_id=110878 time=1559596565 user_id=138]
[quote="Pogo The Clown" post_id=110860 time=1559591169 user_id=53]
Definitely not. Just pointing out how it is a bit of myth about LE ignoring the mob before the 1980s since a large portion, if not a majority, of the guys have did time in the decades before then.
Pogo
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the point is that they fought it as it was not a mafia group but a normal gang, same in italy when there were not all the current anti-mafia laws... yes, some members was arrested and did some times in prison, but rarely sentenced to life, hard sentences, there were not rats who testimonied in a trial, no witness protection program, no rico etc.
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A lot of guys got hard sentences, one guy in the NYPD Mafia file book did 37 years, his name was Sebu, or a similar spelling. Time was harder and tougher than too, and don''t forget that cops and guards could knock the shit out of anyone they felt like. Harry Mainone and Frank Abbadasher (sp?) went to the electric chair. Most old time members did reform school time, and had such a rough time growing up that to some, prison was not so bad. The guys growing up in a nice area, in a safe environment are not going to stand up to prison as well.[/quote]At the same time mob members had a lot more priviliges in prison than nowadays. The scenes in Goodfellas showing the boys in prison were accurate. Prison life wasn't that bad for mobsters back then because of their influence and power outside. Many guards could be bribed and some guys lived like royalty in prison with plenty of room, good food, many friends around and perhaps even had access to women. It's not that hard doing time like that.
In Canada shit like that still happens. Desjardins was treated like a king when he was inside. Over there it's comparable to what you see in a movie such as Un Prophete.