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Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by Manhattan_ » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:41 am

MichaelGiovanni wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:55 pm I know I read somewhere that the Genovese had a 2 block rule for their card games. No other family could operate a game within 2 blocks.

I’ll see if I can find where I read that.
Charlie Moose had opened a after hour club (mid 1970's) on the westside (w4th st.) he had invested $50,000 , very soon after opening it was burnt to the ground. Moose asked for a meeting with Chin , was denied the sit down.

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by UTC » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:21 am

Yes, other operators that included the Cuban Corporation as well.

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by Wiseguy » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:48 pm

MichaelGiovanni wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:55 pm I know I read somewhere that the Genovese had a 2 block rule for their card games. No other family could operate a game within 2 blocks.

I’ll see if I can find where I read that.
It was a general rule among all the families, as well other operators, involving the numbers racket. Fish Cafaro talked about it.

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by MichaelGiovanni » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:55 pm

I know I read somewhere that the Genovese had a 2 block rule for their card games. No other family could operate a game within 2 blocks.

I’ll see if I can find where I read that.

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by nowandlater » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:31 pm

I always thought they divided it up with a big tape measure.

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:53 pm

bert wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:27 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:58 am alphabet city use to have single file lines of dope fiends literally circling buildings waiting there turn to buy there drugs
Ave D was always dangerous, between C and D was historically palace to dump a body or a car, going way back. I have never seen a photo of the lines that I have heard and read about, I did go once to back up a friend who had to buy drugs and it was scary. We were there at night, the only White guys on the block, with 2 sides telling at us to not buy from the other side of the street. "I got the good shit, over here, over here.." Then the other side got mad and said they talked to us first, it's funny now. We were the only people buying that night, at that time. Lucky we didn't hurt or killed.
reminds me of the jacob riis building lol

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by bert » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:27 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:58 am alphabet city use to have single file lines of dope fiends literally circling buildings waiting there turn to buy there drugs
Ave D was always dangerous, between C and D was historically palace to dump a body or a car, going way back. I have never seen a photo of the lines that I have heard and read about, I did go once to back up a friend who had to buy drugs and it was scary. We were there at night, the only White guys on the block, with 2 sides telling at us to not buy from the other side of the street. "I got the good shit, over here, over here.." Then the other side got mad and said they talked to us first, it's funny now. We were the only people buying that night, at that time. Lucky we didn't hurt or killed.

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by Philly d » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:28 pm

Manhattan_ wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:05 am 208 Thompson st. / Panel Club (Tommy Ryan's club) , 101 Thompson st. / (Benny Egg's club) , 225 Sullivan st. / Ralph Gigante's club , 107 Sullivan st, /( Dom the Sailor's club) later used by Eddie the Blonde (Falco) as a club. 14 Bedford st. / was used by Frankie Condo. 1 King st. / (Johnny the Bug) Stoppelli's club. Napoli Notte Café corner of Thompson at W. Houston (aka Angelina's) , 400 club 110 Thompson st. , (aka Bojangles).
I had no idea it was had such a heavy prescence. Now we know why its called the Westside.

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:58 am

alphabet city use to have single file lines of dope fiends literally circling buildings waiting there turn to buy there drugs

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:57 am

bert wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:37 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:27 am
bert wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:18 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:46 pm alphabet village which basically can be called LES if u go by older standards had a lot of early luciano/lansky/siegel guys.

queens is probably equally Gambino / Bonanno areas. any other queens known in other fams?


Jeremy, if you mean avenues A, B, and C when you say "alphabet village" I have always heard it called Alphabet City. No big deal though, I knew what you meant. LES was never used till it became a hipster hangout, before than it was as you said called Lower East Side instead of the abbreviation.
your 100% correct. alphabet city.
i lived there for a while. back in the thompkins sq park days.

but iv mostly lived in brooklyn but hung out in the LES everyday. Essex and Grand, etc.

but im part of the gangSTA generation
You should look up photos of the area from the 1970's, especially Alphabet City. People were scared to go there. It's changed a lot, landlords starting making money and fixing up all the buildings. It used to look like a war zone after a bombing on some streets. Very unsafe back then too.
when i first got there it was the end of and era basically. Ave D projects are the only ghetto thing left there now. but i use to go around those real small pjs at 5th and C.

we use to say..
ave a your a adict
ave b your a blood
c you smoke crack
d your dead

or similar variations

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by bert » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:45 am

Some photos of the area back when

http://www.ceiimage.org/alphabet-city-new-york-1970s/

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by bert » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:37 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:27 am
bert wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:18 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:46 pm alphabet village which basically can be called LES if u go by older standards had a lot of early luciano/lansky/siegel guys.

queens is probably equally Gambino / Bonanno areas. any other queens known in other fams?


Jeremy, if you mean avenues A, B, and C when you say "alphabet village" I have always heard it called Alphabet City. No big deal though, I knew what you meant. LES was never used till it became a hipster hangout, before than it was as you said called Lower East Side instead of the abbreviation.
your 100% correct. alphabet city.
i lived there for a while. back in the thompkins sq park days.

but iv mostly lived in brooklyn but hung out in the LES everyday. Essex and Grand, etc.

but im part of the gangSTA generation
You should look up photos of the area from the 1970's, especially Alphabet City. People were scared to go there. It's changed a lot, landlords starting making money and fixing up all the buildings. It used to look like a war zone after a bombing on some streets. Very unsafe back then too.

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:27 am

bert wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:18 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:46 pm alphabet village which basically can be called LES if u go by older standards had a lot of early luciano/lansky/siegel guys.

queens is probably equally Gambino / Bonanno areas. any other queens known in other fams?


Jeremy, if you mean avenues A, B, and C when you say "alphabet village" I have always heard it called Alphabet City. No big deal though, I knew what you meant. LES was never used till it became a hipster hangout, before than it was as you said called Lower East Side instead of the abbreviation.
your 100% correct. alphabet city.
i lived there for a while. back in the thompkins sq park days.

but iv mostly lived in brooklyn but hung out in the LES everyday. Essex and Grand, etc.

but im part of the gangSTA generation

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by bert » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:18 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:46 pm alphabet village which basically can be called LES if u go by older standards had a lot of early luciano/lansky/siegel guys.

queens is probably equally Gambino / Bonanno areas. any other queens known in other fams?


Jeremy, if you mean avenues A, B, and C when you say "alphabet village" I have always heard it called Alphabet City. No big deal though, I knew what you meant. LES was never used till it became a hipster hangout, before than it was as you said called Lower East Side instead of the abbreviation.

Re: How does NYC families divide up the city?

by Manhattan_ » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:05 am

208 Thompson st. / Panel Club (Tommy Ryan's club) , 101 Thompson st. / (Benny Egg's club) , 225 Sullivan st. / Ralph Gigante's club , 107 Sullivan st, /( Dom the Sailor's club) later used by Eddie the Blonde (Falco) as a club. 14 Bedford st. / was used by Frankie Condo. 1 King st. / (Johnny the Bug) Stoppelli's club. Napoli Notte Café corner of Thompson at W. Houston (aka Angelina's) , 400 club 110 Thompson st. , (aka Bojangles).

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