THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Not long after Rastelli's death, meeting called by Consigliere Anthony Spero to discuss succession. Meeting held at Staten Island residence of Capodecina Charles 'Little Charlie' Musillo. As expected Rastelli's Underboss, Joseph Massino, was suggested and promptly agreed to by all present.

At the time Massino was incarcerated at FCI Talladega, Alabama, serving a ten-year sentence for labor racketeering. Word of the meeting and its outcome reached Massino through former Colombo Captain Andrew Russo, incarcerated at the same facility. Russo requested Massino take a walk with him, during which he informed Massino of his new position and offered congratulations. Massino subsequently ordered his brother-in-law, Captain Salvatore Vitale, to discontinue visiting him at the prison in order to increase the chance of obtaining parole. The responsibility of handling Family affairs was given to Spero and Vitale until Massino's November 1992 release.

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:35 pm

newera_212 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:14 pm do you remember how this worked? Im trying to get the timeline straight...

before Massino got locked up his power was already consolidated and Rastelli was dead. Vitale was handling things for him on the street, I know the Capos were polled by Vitale and it was decided Massino was going to be boss. did this happen before he went in jail or during? i think they did it again as soon as he came home as an official vote too?

or... did Rastelli die when Massino was already locked up, and they did the vote then, and let Vitale be Acting until Massino came home?

i get the timeline mixed up because im unclear on when Rastelli died vs. when Massino went away, but I think its option no. #2

Rastelli and Massino were both jailed up as part of the same Bonanno family racketeering case. They were convicted in 1986 and sentenced in January 1987. Control of the family on the street then goes to Anthony Spero and Salvatore Vitale. Rastelli dies in prison in 1991. Massino gets out on supervised release in 1992.

newera_212 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:14 pm do you remember how this worked? Im trying to get the timeline straight...

before Massino got locked up his power was already consolidated and Rastelli was dead. Vitale was handling things for him on the street, I know the Capos were polled by Vitale and it was decided Massino was going to be boss. did this happen before he went in jail or during? i think they did it again as soon as he came home as an official vote too?

or... did Rastelli die when Massino was already locked up, and they did the vote then, and let Vitale be Acting until Massino came home?

i get the timeline mixed up because im unclear on when Rastelli died vs. when Massino went away, but I think its option no. #2

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:47 pm Massino was elected boss while in prison. Mancuso became Official Boss around 2012.


Pogo

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:59 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:29 pm Is it a first for Mancuso to be elected official whilst in the can? I’d always thought he was official since taking over from Basciano and everyone following served in an acting capacity.

IIRC, Carmine Persico & Tony Ducks were both made bosses while
in jail. If not 'official' the position was held for them until they got
out.

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:38 am Any speculation on who else besides sammartino was on the panel in 2009?

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:29 pm Is it a first for Mancuso to be elected official whilst in the can? I’d always thought he was official since taking over from Basciano and everyone following served in an acting capacity.

Frank wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:43 pm

Frank wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:43 pm I don't know if there is any info but didn't Santora become acting Underboss after he returned to the streets?

I mean again as acting boss, because LE said he had some Capo's that reported to him, this would be around 2011 to 2014.

Frank wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:43 pm I don't know if there is any info but didn't Santora become acting Underboss after he returned to the streets?

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:24 pm Acting Bosses:
-Michael "Mikey Nose" Mancuso (2005-February 2006) Imprisoned.
-Salvatore “Sal the Ironworker” Montagna (2006-April 2009) Deported.
-Ruling Panel- (2009-2010)
-The ruling panel includes
Capo Joseph "Sammy" Sammartino (2009-October 2009) Imprisoned.
-It is unknown who else was on this panel.
-Vincent "Vinny T.V/Paris/Appliance" Badalamenti (2010-January 2012) Imprisoned.


Acting UnderBosses:
-Joseph "Joe C/Joe Saunders" Cammarano (December 2002-January 2004) Imprisoned.
-Michael "Mikey Nose" Mancuso (2004-2005) Became Acting Boss.
-Nicholas "Nicky Mouth" Santora (2005-February 2007) Imprisoned.


Acting Consiglieres:
-Anthony "Tony Green/Junior" Urso (December 2002-2003) Became Acting Boss.
-Vacant- (2003-2004)
-Anthony "Fat Anthony/Mr. Fish" Rabito (2004-February 2007) Imprisoned.
-Vincent "Vinny T.V/Paris/Appliance" Badalamenti (2007-2010) Became Acting Boss.


Pogo