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Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by Teflon john » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:43 pm

Im skipping this book because i dont believe a fucking thing Alite says,damn shame Anastasia who is a good writer wasted his time with this guy. I guess people will do anything for a buck but Alite and Natale's books are 2 that i'm not wasting my time or money on.

Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by bronx » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:33 pm

Jeremy, lino was killed before bobby

Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by Villain » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:36 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:53 am I'm sure it is the Soldiers since they most often are the ones dealing with the Associates. In this case it looks like the Capos are acting as the sponsors at the actual ceremony. That seems to be common among the NY families.


Pogo
Thanks

Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:53 am

I'm sure it is the Soldiers since they most often are the ones dealing with the Associates. In this case it looks like the Capos are acting as the sponsors at the actual ceremony. That seems to be common among the NY families.


Pogo

Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by Villain » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:38 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:54 pm Don't know. It was held at a house in Queens. Here is a great breakdown of that ceremony that JD posted a while back.

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November 15, 1990

Location: Residence in Queens

Attendees

- John Gotti (50y) (Boss)
- Salvatore Gravano (45y) (Underboss)
- Frank LoCascio (58y) (Acting Consigliere)

- Pasquale Conte (65y) (Captain)
- Joseph 'Joe Butch' Corrao (54y) (Captain)
- James 'Jimmy Brown' Failla (71y) (Captain)
- John Gotti Jr. (26y) (Captain)
- Peter Gotti (51y) (Captain)
- Louis Ricco (61y) (Captain)
- Louis Vallario (49y) (Captain)

- Riccardo Cefalu (63y) (Soldier)

Members Inducted
- Mario 'Little Mario' Antonicelli (60y)
- Charles Carneglia (44y) [Carneglia book claims Spring 1991]
- John 'Jackie' Cavallo (39y)
- Domenico Cefalu (43y)
- Vincent 'Vinny Butch' Corrao (23y)
- Frank Fappiano (28y)
- Richard Martino (31y)
- Louis 'Brother' Scida (54y)
- Anthony 'Tall Tony' Vinciullo (56y)
Pogo whos more often sponsoring or proposing these fellas in the NY mob, the capos or soldiers?

Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by Pogo The Clown » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:54 pm

Don't know. It was held at a house in Queens. Here is a great breakdown of that ceremony that JD posted a while back.

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November 15, 1990

Location: Residence in Queens

Attendees

- John Gotti (50y) (Boss)
- Salvatore Gravano (45y) (Underboss)
- Frank LoCascio (58y) (Acting Consigliere)

- Pasquale Conte (65y) (Captain)
- Joseph 'Joe Butch' Corrao (54y) (Captain)
- James 'Jimmy Brown' Failla (71y) (Captain)
- John Gotti Jr. (26y) (Captain)
- Peter Gotti (51y) (Captain)
- Louis Ricco (61y) (Captain)
- Louis Vallario (49y) (Captain)

- Riccardo Cefalu (63y) (Soldier)

Members Inducted
- Mario 'Little Mario' Antonicelli (60y)
- Charles Carneglia (44y) [Carneglia book claims Spring 1991]
- John 'Jackie' Cavallo (39y)
- Domenico Cefalu (43y)
- Vincent 'Vinny Butch' Corrao (23y)
- Frank Fappiano (28y)
- Richard Martino (31y)
- Louis 'Brother' Scida (54y)
- Anthony 'Tall Tony' Vinciullo (56y)

Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:58 pm

So was it at alites girls house?

Where he was told hed be in attendance

.... dont knke why...

Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:53 pm

So was it at alites girls house?

Where he was told hed be in attendance

.... dont knke why...

Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by Pogo The Clown » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:59 am

Actually gotti Sr. presided over Carneglia's making ceremony. It was on November 15th. Gotti was indicted that December.


Pogo

Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions

by AlexfromSouth » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:48 am

Yeah, Casso and chin were a deadly force

Reading Gottis Rules questions

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:23 am

He claims while Snr was first booked on the last case that while he was away charles carneglia was made.

He claims it was at his home and that he was supposed to be in attendance (maybe B.C. jnr was the one presiding?)

Also... the way he makes it seems..... in 1990 i would almost say Casso was flexing on Gambinos and they didn't really do anything.


First DeCicco. But then Boriello, and eventually Lino.

Thats some big guys to get hit and thats that i would have thought. Seems the lukes may have been stronger force back then.

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