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Re: buscetta

by RONALD » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:18 am

Nice find Strax... thanks.

Re: buscetta

by Strax » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:20 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMeXtNp1ocs

1:20 , Toto Riina on trial with english subtitles,he denies he ever heard about Cosa Nostra.

Re: buscetta

by RONALD » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:17 am

Wow.. Dwalin and Toto, you two are both historians on this. Great reading.

Re: buscetta

by toto » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:00 pm

The real reason is he was close to Badalamenti and Antonino Salamone and Stefano Bontate told that to Buscetta. But the politics means this cannot be used as the real reason so they made a justification, so Calo said it is not right a boss can be disrespected like this and he is breaking the rules about the woman and then they approve it.

If I remember Franco Scrima was capodecina, Spadaro underboss and Gerlando Alberti consigliere but I think Porta Nuova had more than 1 consigliere as well for some time. Franco Scrima also flipped in the 90s.

Sometimes, so many men from one family are mafiosi they act as one family like Inzerillo for an example.

Re: buscetta

by Dwalin2014 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:28 pm

toto wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:45 pm Lallicata was murdered in 1979. He was capodecina Porta Nuova family and friend of Buscetta. When they put Calo on trial for that murder Buscetta and Francesco Marino Mannoia testified. Francesco was told about it by Stefano Bontate and present were a few others including Emanuele D'Agostino and Salvatore Federico both murdered in 1981 by the Corleonesi and the murder was in the house Francesco Adelfio. The murder was decided in the commission and the reason was some issue with a married woman and Lallicata and also he went against Calo many times "you are not a good boss".

In that trial in the 90s Calo still said to Buscetta "a devil inventing things" and "I don't know anything of this Cosa Nostra" and Buscetta said "you were born in Cosa Nostra and your dad was a mafioso and your uncle as well." Calo's uncle was a goalkeeper for Palermo and member of Porta Nuova family.

Francesco said to Calo "you were an gentleman" in the early 70s. "You should flip, what do you have to lose". Buscetta also said the same to him.

The trials from the 90s were crazy. In another one Salvatore Cancemi was saying thanks to Raffaele Ganci for saving his life and telling him to flip as well.
Thanks for the information! During the trial in the documentary Buscetta says though Lallicata was killed only for being close to Badalamenti and no other reason....Maybe Calo' lied to him when he said that and Buscetta was quoting the lie, I don't know. Look at 1:01:50 in the documentary, Buscetta starts telling this specific episode in that moment.
By the way, have you seen that documentary? A really interesting one, long about 1 hour 40 minutes, there are interrogations of Michele Greco, Giuseppe Calo', Gerlando Alberti, Antonino Salamone, Luciano Leggio and maybe Ignazio Salvo (I don't remember) and Salvatore Contorno testifying apart from Buscetta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tTQyOei8iU

One thing is confusing though: they messed up all the mafia family geography in Palermo: for example, the narrator says at the beginning that in the Kalsa district there are the Spadaro and Senapa families, but there are no such independent families and never were, as far as I know. Tommaso Spadaro was one of the underbosses of the Porta Nuova family (the other was Francesco Scrima, but it doesn't say if there were 2 underbosses at the same time or did one succeed the other), the same family that was headed by Pippo Calo' and that Buscetta was part of (although Spadaro was indeed powerful in Kalsa, but never an independent family boss). I read it here, the list of some bosses, underbosses etc, that Buscetta provided:

http://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica ... iglie.html

but it was also in some hand-written copies of documents available online on at least 1 of the Italian sites I found later, so it's not just this newspaper that says it.
And there was no boss with last name Senapa. Pietro Senapa was convicted as one of the triggermen in the 1981 murder of the carabiniere Vito Ievolella. Tommaso Spadaro got a life sentence too, for giving the order, but could an underboss order a hit on a police officer without the boss's authorization?

Re: buscetta

by moneyman » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:44 pm

Is that courtroom still in use? What a strange setup, it seems like it would pose a serious risk to the court to have all of those mafiosi in one place like that.

Re: buscetta

by toto » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:45 pm

Dwalin2014 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:24 pm I remember this episode from the Maxi Trial documentary: Calo' is accusing Buscetta of being a liar, being unable to provide information about specific crimes, and says Buscetta's brother was his friend, while Buscetta says that Calo' forgot to mention that he was present during the Commission meeting where the murder of Buscetta's brother was voted, and about specific crimes, he quotes Calo' saying to him time ago, that he and some others killed a mafia soldier named Giannuzzo Lallicata, for the only reason he was too close to Gaetano Badalamenti. Calo' protests and Buscetta says "You did it yourself with your own hands" ("Lo hai fatto con le tue mani").

An interesting documentary, that one. I liked most of all the part where they question Michele Greco, who is the chairman of the Commission but basically Toto' Riina's puppet. The judge asks him about the murders he ordered, and Greco says "Violence isn't part of my dignity" ("La violenza non fa parte della mia dignita'") :lol: And then, when he is asked if he knew Stefano Bontate (one of the leaders of the opposition against Riina, whacked in 1981) he says "Of course, poor Stefano...He and his brother Giovanni used to visit my estate, when they were still kids wearing short pants" and later invites the judge to visit his land property too. Sounds like a cruel humor joke, remembering when they invited Salvatore Scaglione, Rosario Riccobono and others (about 10 in all) to visit Michele Greco's estate....And nobody came back! I wonder whether the judge remembered that, when listening to Greco's invitation :)
Lallicata was murdered in 1979. He was capodecina Porta Nuova family and friend of Buscetta. When they put Calo on trial for that murder Buscetta and Francesco Marino Mannoia testified. Francesco was told about it by Stefano Bontate and present were a few others including Emanuele D'Agostino and Salvatore Federico both murdered in 1981 by the Corleonesi and the murder was in the house Francesco Adelfio. The murder was decided in the commission and the reason was some issue with a married woman and Lallicata and also he went against Calo many times "you are not a good boss".

In that trial in the 90s Calo still said to Buscetta "a devil inventing things" and "I don't know anything of this Cosa Nostra" and Buscetta said "you were born in Cosa Nostra and your dad was a mafioso and your uncle as well." Calo's uncle was a goalkeeper for Palermo and member of Porta Nuova family.

Francesco said to Calo "you were an gentleman" in the early 70s. "You should flip, what do you have to lose". Buscetta also said the same to him.

The trials from the 90s were crazy. In another one Salvatore Cancemi was saying thanks to Raffaele Ganci for saving his life and telling him to flip as well.

Re: buscetta

by RONALD » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:04 am

Thanks Strax... never saw this.

Re: buscetta

by Strax » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:47 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAKIpdA7wQI

4:50 Buscetta vs Calò with english subtitles.

Re: buscetta

by RONALD » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:19 am

Also furiofromnaples...thanks

Re: buscetta

by RONALD » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:18 am

Thanks Dwalin for the translation...

Re: buscetta

by moneyman » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:54 am

Very cool thanks for the responses.

Re: buscetta

by furiofromnaples » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:11 am

Dwalin2014 Michele Greco did his best when said this to the judges who are preparing to issue the maxiprocess judgment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIleRcE9wzY
Io desidero farle un augurio:io vi auguro la pace signor presidente,a tutti voi auguro la pace,perchè la pace è la tranquilittà e la serenità dello spirito e della coscienza. Per il compito che vi aspetta,mi deve scusare signor presidente,la serenità è la base fondamentale per giudicare; non sono parole mie,sono parole di Nostro Signore,che lo raccomandò a Mosè,quando devi giudicare che ci sia la massima serenità,che è la base fondamentale e vi auguro ancora signor presidente che questa pace,vi accompagnerà nel resto della vostra vita,oltre a questa occasione.
I wish you a wish: I wish you Mr President the peace,I wish to all of you the peace, because the peace is the tranquility and serenity of spirit and consciousness.For the duty that awaits you,must apologize me Mr President, serenity is the fundamental basis for judging;Aree not my words, are the words of Our Lord, who recommended this to Moses,when you have to judge must be the peace of mind,that is the fundamental basis and I still wish for you Mr President that this peace will accompany you in the rest of your life,over this occasion.

Re: buscetta

by Dwalin2014 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:24 pm

I remember this episode from the Maxi Trial documentary: Calo' is accusing Buscetta of being a liar, being unable to provide information about specific crimes, and says Buscetta's brother was his friend, while Buscetta says that Calo' forgot to mention that he was present during the Commission meeting where the murder of Buscetta's brother was voted, and about specific crimes, he quotes Calo' saying to him time ago, that he and some others killed a mafia soldier named Giannuzzo Lallicata, for the only reason he was too close to Gaetano Badalamenti. Calo' protests and Buscetta says "You did it yourself with your own hands" ("Lo hai fatto con le tue mani").

An interesting documentary, that one. I liked most of all the part where they question Michele Greco, who is the chairman of the Commission but basically Toto' Riina's puppet. The judge asks him about the murders he ordered, and Greco says "Violence isn't part of my dignity" ("La violenza non fa parte della mia dignita'") :lol: And then, when he is asked if he knew Stefano Bontate (one of the leaders of the opposition against Riina, whacked in 1981) he says "Of course, poor Stefano...He and his brother Giovanni used to visit my estate, when they were still kids wearing short pants" and later invites the judge to visit his land property too. Sounds like a cruel humor joke, remembering when they invited Salvatore Scaglione, Rosario Riccobono and others (about 10 in all) to visit Michele Greco's estate....And nobody came back! I wonder whether the judge remembered that, when listening to Greco's invitation :)

Re: buscetta

by moneyman » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:57 pm

felice can you give a description of what Calo is saying to Buscetta?

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