by B. » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:08 pm
baldo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:02 am
Nice find. Ray Cagno mentioned in it. Is Dominick Luciano the Lolly Luciano that was also murdered?
Same guy as Philly member Dominick "Louie" Luciano.
Two older Campisis, Thomas and Charles, were identified by the FBI as members of the Genovese family, though I don't know how many sources corroborated it. Their father Pietro has also been identified as an early NJ mafia member and one researcher found information that Pietro Campisi sponsored Genovese NJ member Carmine Battaglia into the mafia and that Battaglia in turn sponsored Thomas and Charles Campisi, which indicates that Pietro was also a Genovese member. He was a potential Newark member before that, there there are little to no known threads connecting the Newark family to the Genovese NJ crews.
Battaglia is sometimes misidentified as a Philadelphia captain in Newark as he had connections to them and represented Tony Caponigro in a sit-down with Genovese members, among other things. Ray DeCarlo refers to his own induction taking place at Battaglia's house, which adds to Battaglia being a Genovese member. I am not too knowledgeable on the Genovese so not sure if Battaglia was ever a captain in that family or what. Seems possible the Campisis were under him if that's the case or if Battaglia was under another captain I assume the Campisis were in the same crew. Beyond that, info I've read puts Battaglia more on the fringe of the other Genovese NJ groups and he was not well-liked by DeCarlo, which could have added to the Campisi's independence. Would be cool to find out exactly why/how they were able to become a so-called "independent" group -- there were many dangerous people and murderers in NJ, so violent reputation alone can't be the reason and in NJ of all places they must have still been affiliated with a mafia group.
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Nice find. Ray Cagno mentioned in it. Is Dominick Luciano the Lolly Luciano that was also murdered?
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Same guy as Philly member Dominick "Louie" Luciano.
Two older Campisis, Thomas and Charles, were identified by the FBI as members of the Genovese family, though I don't know how many sources corroborated it. Their father Pietro has also been identified as an early NJ mafia member and one researcher found information that Pietro Campisi sponsored Genovese NJ member Carmine Battaglia into the mafia and that Battaglia in turn sponsored Thomas and Charles Campisi, which indicates that Pietro was also a Genovese member. He was a potential Newark member before that, there there are little to no known threads connecting the Newark family to the Genovese NJ crews.
Battaglia is sometimes misidentified as a Philadelphia captain in Newark as he had connections to them and represented Tony Caponigro in a sit-down with Genovese members, among other things. Ray DeCarlo refers to his own induction taking place at Battaglia's house, which adds to Battaglia being a Genovese member. I am not too knowledgeable on the Genovese so not sure if Battaglia was ever a captain in that family or what. Seems possible the Campisis were under him if that's the case or if Battaglia was under another captain I assume the Campisis were in the same crew. Beyond that, info I've read puts Battaglia more on the fringe of the other Genovese NJ groups and he was not well-liked by DeCarlo, which could have added to the Campisi's independence. Would be cool to find out exactly why/how they were able to become a so-called "independent" group -- there were many dangerous people and murderers in NJ, so violent reputation alone can't be the reason and in NJ of all places they must have still been affiliated with a mafia group.