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Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by Bing Bang 74 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:05 pm

Browniety86 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:49 am I always wonder what kind of boss Phil Testa woulda been but then I remember him making a known dope dealer Pete Casella underboss...not really a stroke of genius in my opinion...
Phil Leonetti attributed it to both of them being Sicilian, which Scarfo resented.

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by Browniety86 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:49 am

I always wonder what kind of boss Phil Testa woulda been but then I remember him making a known dope dealer Pete Casella underboss...not really a stroke of genius in my opinion...

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by Browniety86 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:45 am

Chucky wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:11 am
Browniety86 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:43 am I remember the old A&E documentary on the Philly Mob Wars, the one where they're talking to Harry Riccobene in prison. I'll never forget when they talk about Bobby Riccobene and he says "they killed my brother"...Just the way he said it and the emotion on his face was very sad...Harry had the makings to be a great boss, moreso than that fucking nut Nick Scarfo...
Had he just kicked up to Scarfo, like everyone else, his brother never would have gotten blasted, plus the guy was an informant.
Wonder what information gave up?I know Mario Riccobene was an informant and when he came back to Philly they hit him...Dude had balls though tellin Scarfo chalk it on the kick up...

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by TallGuy19 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:26 am

MickeyMeatballs wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:15 am
Chucky wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:11 am
Browniety86 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:43 am I remember the old A&E documentary on the Philly Mob Wars, the one where they're talking to Harry Riccobene in prison. I'll never forget when they talk about Bobby Riccobene and he says "they killed my brother"...Just the way he said it and the emotion on his face was very sad...Harry had the makings to be a great boss, moreso than that fucking nut Nick Scarfo...
Had he just kicked up to Scarfo, like everyone else, his brother never would have gotten blasted, plus the guy was an informant.
I mean hell, the guy was supposedly made at what, 17 or something like that? If that’s correct, that’s always blown my mind. Made at a crazy young age, and spends a few decades away from the fold doing his own thing under Bruno until Scarfo notices him.
I’ve always wondered, out of the crew of guys Harry had around him, were there any other made guys? He seems to be like a de-facto capo of a crew of associates.
There were no made guys under him. He was a soldier who ran a semi-independent crew of associates.

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by AustraliaSteve » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:15 am

Chucky wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:11 am
Browniety86 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:43 am I remember the old A&E documentary on the Philly Mob Wars, the one where they're talking to Harry Riccobene in prison. I'll never forget when they talk about Bobby Riccobene and he says "they killed my brother"...Just the way he said it and the emotion on his face was very sad...Harry had the makings to be a great boss, moreso than that fucking nut Nick Scarfo...
Had he just kicked up to Scarfo, like everyone else, his brother never would have gotten blasted, plus the guy was an informant.
I mean hell, the guy was supposedly made at what, 17 or something like that? If that’s correct, that’s always blown my mind. Made at a crazy young age, and spends a few decades away from the fold doing his own thing under Bruno until Scarfo notices him.
I’ve always wondered, out of the crew of guys Harry had around him, were there any other made guys? He seems to be like a de-facto capo of a crew of associates.

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by Chucky » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:11 am

Browniety86 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:43 am I remember the old A&E documentary on the Philly Mob Wars, the one where they're talking to Harry Riccobene in prison. I'll never forget when they talk about Bobby Riccobene and he says "they killed my brother"...Just the way he said it and the emotion on his face was very sad...Harry had the makings to be a great boss, moreso than that fucking nut Nick Scarfo...
Had he just kicked up to Scarfo, like everyone else, his brother never would have gotten blasted, plus the guy was an informant.

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by Browniety86 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:43 am

I remember the old A&E documentary on the Philly Mob Wars, the one where they're talking to Harry Riccobene in prison. I'll never forget when they talk about Bobby Riccobene and he says "they killed my brother"...Just the way he said it and the emotion on his face was very sad...Harry had the makings to be a great boss, moreso than that fucking nut Nick Scarfo...

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by UTC » Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:06 pm

8 according to shooter Pedulla himself

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by Robert cissell » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:11 pm

Didn't they kill frank Monte with a 22 rifle? Shot him like 5 times or so I believe

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by DonPeppino386 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:25 pm

chin_gigante wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:47 pm Early 1983 – Spirito, Caramandi and Iannece are given another chance on the Mario Riccobene contract while Testa’s crew continues to stalk the Riccobenes as a second hit team. After explaining the Spirito situation, Caramandi and Iannece are called to a meeting by Ciancaglini and Salvatore Merlino where they are given the contract on Spirito.
Chick, we dont wanna be with this guy no more! - That always makes me chuckle for some reason.


Great post as always Chin. I dont think people realize how helpful these timelines truly are. They save tons of reading time.

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by DonPeppino386 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:22 pm

NJShore4Life wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:12 am
Tony Monte wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:51 am Yes it was from Blood and Honor. Faffy and Joey were drinking at a bar near where veterans stadium used to be. A few of the Riccobene crew members were outside, Faffy had his cousin bring him a gun and when they walked out pointed the gun and the Riccobene crew and said we’re leaving here alive.
That may explain why Faffy is currently back in the fold and held in high regard in 2019 South Philly.
Yeah probably, The Crow definitely paints him as a manipulator, but there is no doubting that he was/is a stone gangster.

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by ItzPurpleAki » Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:26 am

Tony Monte wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:51 am Yes it was from Blood and Honor. Faffy and Joey were drinking at a bar near where veterans stadium used to be. A few of the Riccobene crew members were outside, Faffy had his cousin bring him a gun and when they walked out pointed the gun and the Riccobene crew and said we’re leaving here alive.
Do you have the exact extract?

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by NJShore4Life » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:12 am

Tony Monte wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:51 am Yes it was from Blood and Honor. Faffy and Joey were drinking at a bar near where veterans stadium used to be. A few of the Riccobene crew members were outside, Faffy had his cousin bring him a gun and when they walked out pointed the gun and the Riccobene crew and said we’re leaving here alive.
That may explain why Faffy is currently back in the fold and held in high regard in 2019 South Philly.

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by Tony Monte » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:51 am

Yes it was from Blood and Honor. Faffy and Joey were drinking at a bar near where veterans stadium used to be. A few of the Riccobene crew members were outside, Faffy had his cousin bring him a gun and when they walked out pointed the gun and the Riccobene crew and said we’re leaving here alive.

Re: Riccobene-Scarfo War 1982-1983

by chin_gigante » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:51 pm

I've done more thinking about this and I remember reading about an incident where Faffy Iannarella was guarding Joey Merlino in case the Riccobene faction tried to go after him. They were in a hotel or a bar or something and they bumped into Sammy Tamburrino so Faffy went up to him and told him they were walking out alive.
I'm travelling this week and don't have access to my copy of Blood and Honour and limited access to the internet so if anyone else remembers that story or where it came from it would be appreciated

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