THE BLACK HAND FORUM

phatmatress777 wrote:

OlBlueEyesClub wrote:

Chucky wrote:But it's not 30 years ago, and had the mailman (how they missed him is astounding) not seen them speed off they would have gotten away with it. Nicodemo is at a max prison in the middle of nowhere and he's been there for four years now, he's not rolling. Comparing Leonetti and Grande is silly, even for you, the Gambinos brought Roccaforte to a major meeting in NJ with Philly guys, he had never done time, should they have clipped him too?

Lancellotti and Merlino go back 30 years and he's been a skipper for going on two decades now, he's always had status. Him and Grande being there might indicate they were involved with Merlino & Parello's scheme. Also, based off Stefanelli's recordings, Lancellotti is well known to NY and carries juice outside the Philly/SJ area.

Agree with this for the most part. I also agree with Rocco about wanting to see some heavy shit go down in Philly , its long overdue.

Philly is a great source for entertainment in the Mafia dept.


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toto wrote:What on earth is the fascination with this relatively insignificant, almost moribund clan? It beats me.

OlBlueEyesClub wrote:

Chucky wrote:But it's not 30 years ago, and had the mailman (how they missed him is astounding) not seen them speed off they would have gotten away with it. Nicodemo is at a max prison in the middle of nowhere and he's been there for four years now, he's not rolling. Comparing Leonetti and Grande is silly, even for you, the Gambinos brought Roccaforte to a major meeting in NJ with Philly guys, he had never done time, should they have clipped him too?

Lancellotti and Merlino go back 30 years and he's been a skipper for going on two decades now, he's always had status. Him and Grande being there might indicate they were involved with Merlino & Parello's scheme. Also, based off Stefanelli's recordings, Lancellotti is well known to NY and carries juice outside the Philly/SJ area.

Agree with this for the most part. I also agree with Rocco about wanting to see some heavy shit go down in Philly , its long overdue.

Chucky wrote:But it's not 30 years ago, and had the mailman (how they missed him is astounding) not seen them speed off they would have gotten away with it. Nicodemo is at a max prison in the middle of nowhere and he's been there for four years now, he's not rolling. Comparing Leonetti and Grande is silly, even for you, the Gambinos brought Roccaforte to a major meeting in NJ with Philly guys, he had never done time, should they have clipped him too?

Lancellotti and Merlino go back 30 years and he's been a skipper for going on two decades now, he's always had status. Him and Grande being there might indicate they were involved with Merlino & Parello's scheme. Also, based off Stefanelli's recordings, Lancellotti is well known to NY and carries juice outside the Philly/SJ area.

OlBlueEyesClub wrote:Theres not a 100% possibility that even at his age , he'll outlive a 16 year sentence . But he seems like a pretty healthy guy , so its plausible. But Merlino definitely isnt banking like the bosses from the past and hes always had the reputation as a bit of a brokester. According to the gangland article covering the party from 2014-15, Merlino basically requested money from Rubeo on two occasions , the second was for $5000, which he supposedly demanded on the day he left NY. The article also says Merlino never paid for his own shit throughout his time with Rubeo & the "Jeff" agent in NY. It also says Parello rarely "put his hand in his own pocket", I thought that was kinda funny. But it definitely wasnt an East Coast lCN Enterprise, it seems like it only involved Merlino, Parello & O'nofrio. Merlino also identified Michael Lancelotti as his "main man" in Philadelphia, could mean they're just really close friends. Could also mean Lancelotti has risen in stature over the past couple of years, while behind the scenes and could be the one whos actually in charge out there. I dont know though .

bobbybats wrote:I think the government will be happy to five him a 6-10 plea deal. I say this because after the Ligambi and Borgesi trials in which the government and almost everyone else felt they were going away for ever, the government will not chance another loss even with tapes. They will take the plea and get the conviction, another loss would seriously hurt the government in future mob trials, in my humble opinion.

bobbybats wrote:I think the government will be happy to five him a 6-10 plea deal. I say this because after the Ligambi and Borgesi trials in which the government and almost everyone else felt they were going away for ever, the government will not chance another loss even with tapes. They will take the plea and get the conviction, another loss would seriously hurt the government in future mob trials, in my humble opinion.