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SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:22 pm

DPG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:47 pm

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:06 am

DPG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:30 am

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:26 am Yes I agree with you fellas that Russos books are sometimes hard to read after receiving all kinds of infos which he possibly wasnt able to get them at the time when he created his projects.

But dont get carried away by it so much since the Korshak brothers, especially the younger one, were pure Outfit associates.

As much content there is included in the book I’m sure it was easy to get things such as dates mixed up. If the book was purely about the Korshak brothers I believe it would’ve been easier to keep things lined up. The biggest thing that stuck out to me was him placing Zwillman at a 1967 meeting in Palm Springs with the Outfit leadership, considering how Zwillman was found hanging in his basement in 1959. Could’ve just been a simple mistake.


Funny story about the book. I was reading it in the last weeks of my marriage and anything that took my attention away from my ex wife she hated. Work, tv, computer, books , Xbox you name it if I enjoyed it she hated it and didn’t want me having anything to do with them. Anyway after we separated I was finishing the book. I get to the last 5 pages before the appendix start and she had ripped them out lol I still haven’t managed to read those 5 pages.

My ex-wife and your ex sound like they are the same person.

Yea it’s crazy anything I was interested in besides her was a constant fight. I was at her and her husbands house seeing my son one night last week and there is an Xbox in every damn room. So I pulled him off to the side and asked him if she lets him play them, he laughed at me and asked if I was crazy. I figured maybe she had grown up a little but I was wrong.

She's his problem now. Take solace in that fact.

DPG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:47 pm

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:06 am

DPG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:30 am

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:26 am Yes I agree with you fellas that Russos books are sometimes hard to read after receiving all kinds of infos which he possibly wasnt able to get them at the time when he created his projects.

But dont get carried away by it so much since the Korshak brothers, especially the younger one, were pure Outfit associates.

As much content there is included in the book I’m sure it was easy to get things such as dates mixed up. If the book was purely about the Korshak brothers I believe it would’ve been easier to keep things lined up. The biggest thing that stuck out to me was him placing Zwillman at a 1967 meeting in Palm Springs with the Outfit leadership, considering how Zwillman was found hanging in his basement in 1959. Could’ve just been a simple mistake.


Funny story about the book. I was reading it in the last weeks of my marriage and anything that took my attention away from my ex wife she hated. Work, tv, computer, books , Xbox you name it if I enjoyed it she hated it and didn’t want me having anything to do with them. Anyway after we separated I was finishing the book. I get to the last 5 pages before the appendix start and she had ripped them out lol I still haven’t managed to read those 5 pages.

My ex-wife and your ex sound like they are the same person.

Yea it’s crazy anything I was interested in besides her was a constant fight. I was at her and her husbands house seeing my son one night last week and there is an Xbox in every damn room. So I pulled him off to the side and asked him if she lets him play them, he laughed at me and asked if I was crazy. I figured maybe she had grown up a little but I was wrong.

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:06 am

DPG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:30 am

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:26 am Yes I agree with you fellas that Russos books are sometimes hard to read after receiving all kinds of infos which he possibly wasnt able to get them at the time when he created his projects.

But dont get carried away by it so much since the Korshak brothers, especially the younger one, were pure Outfit associates.

As much content there is included in the book I’m sure it was easy to get things such as dates mixed up. If the book was purely about the Korshak brothers I believe it would’ve been easier to keep things lined up. The biggest thing that stuck out to me was him placing Zwillman at a 1967 meeting in Palm Springs with the Outfit leadership, considering how Zwillman was found hanging in his basement in 1959. Could’ve just been a simple mistake.


Funny story about the book. I was reading it in the last weeks of my marriage and anything that took my attention away from my ex wife she hated. Work, tv, computer, books , Xbox you name it if I enjoyed it she hated it and didn’t want me having anything to do with them. Anyway after we separated I was finishing the book. I get to the last 5 pages before the appendix start and she had ripped them out lol I still haven’t managed to read those 5 pages.

My ex-wife and your ex sound like they are the same person.

DPG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:30 am

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:26 am Yes I agree with you fellas that Russos books are sometimes hard to read after receiving all kinds of infos which he possibly wasnt able to get them at the time when he created his projects.

But dont get carried away by it so much since the Korshak brothers, especially the younger one, were pure Outfit associates.

As much content there is included in the book I’m sure it was easy to get things such as dates mixed up. If the book was purely about the Korshak brothers I believe it would’ve been easier to keep things lined up. The biggest thing that stuck out to me was him placing Zwillman at a 1967 meeting in Palm Springs with the Outfit leadership, considering how Zwillman was found hanging in his basement in 1959. Could’ve just been a simple mistake.


Funny story about the book. I was reading it in the last weeks of my marriage and anything that took my attention away from my ex wife she hated. Work, tv, computer, books , Xbox you name it if I enjoyed it she hated it and didn’t want me having anything to do with them. Anyway after we separated I was finishing the book. I get to the last 5 pages before the appendix start and she had ripped them out lol I still haven’t managed to read those 5 pages.

DPG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:30 am

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:26 am Yes I agree with you fellas that Russos books are sometimes hard to read after receiving all kinds of infos which he possibly wasnt able to get them at the time when he created his projects.

But dont get carried away by it so much since the Korshak brothers, especially the younger one, were pure Outfit associates.

As much content there is included in the book I’m sure it was easy to get things such as dates mixed up. If the book was purely about the Korshak brothers I believe it would’ve been easier to keep things lined up. The biggest thing that stuck out to me was him placing Zwillman at a 1967 meeting in Palm Springs with the Outfit leadership, considering how Zwillman was found hanging in his basement in 1959. Could’ve just been a simple mistake.


Funny story about the book. I was reading it in the last weeks of my marriage and anything that took my attention away from my ex wife she hated. Work, tv, computer, books , Xbox you name it if I enjoyed it she hated it and didn’t want me having anything to do with them. Anyway after we separated I was finishing the book. I get to the last 5 pages before the appendix start and she had ripped them out lol I still haven’t managed to read those 5 pages.

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:26 am Yes I agree with you fellas that Russos books are sometimes hard to read after receiving all kinds of infos which he possibly wasnt able to get them at the time when he created his projects.

But dont get carried away by it so much since the Korshak brothers, especially the younger one, were pure Outfit associates.

Stroccos wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:12 pm

Villain wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:22 am I think that Dalitz was also close to Joe Kennedy during prohibition

Is there any kind of info out there on whether he ever pulled the trigger?


EDIT: In addition to the Lansky chat, the guy was often mentioned by top members of the commission so maybe he didnt reach the American dream but still he accomplished something which never ever before existed in CN circles, followed by Guzik, Alex and even maybe Dalitz

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... rdo_lansky

I would guess he probably did in his younger days . I believe he was in the original purple gang in Detroit ,

he was a suspect in the morris komissarow murder in the early 1930's

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:50 pm

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:19 am

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:16 am

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:22 am Didnt Dalitz build, like, the biggest hospital in Arizona, or Vegas or something like that ?

The Sunrise Hospital.

On top of the Sunrise Hospital, Moe Dalitz also built the Las Vegas Country Club and Boulevard Mall. He also financed many home builders for private residential developments. He took over the Desert Inn in 1950 (79% ownership) and later the Stardust Resort and Casino. Moe also was partners in the Rock Island Railroad, Michigan Industrial Laundry Co., Detroit Steel Co. and founder of Dalitz Realty.

Only to later be poisoned while in his own hospital.

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:19 am

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:16 am

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:22 am Didnt Dalitz build, like, the biggest hospital in Arizona, or Vegas or something like that ?

The Sunrise Hospital.

On top of the Sunrise Hospital, Moe Dalitz also built the Las Vegas Country Club and Boulevard Mall. He also financed many home builders for private residential developments. He took over the Desert Inn in 1950 (79% ownership) and later the Stardust Resort and Casino. Moe also was partners in the Rock Island Railroad, Michigan Industrial Laundry Co., Detroit Steel Co. and founder of Dalitz Realty.

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:16 am

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:22 am Didnt Dalitz build, like, the biggest hospital in Arizona, or Vegas or something like that ?

The Sunrise Hospital.