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by **Pogo The Clown** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:09 pm

B. wrote:Wasn't Frank Lagano murdered for being an informant?

Yes he was in 2006.

Pogo

by B. » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:46 pm

Wasn't Frank Lagano murdered for being an informant?

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:14 am

HairyKnuckles wrote:Totally unrelated to the topic of this thread, but what do you guys think happens to a made member who gets exposed (by the members) as a rat these days? Let´s say he´s an informant and have not testified against anybody. Will he get killed (seems unlikely) or simply chased?

They'd hit him to prevent testifying.

Rats aren't hit today only because it just brings heat without changing anything.
But preventing a rat from testifying is another matter.

by **Pogo The Clown** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:01 am

In that case he very well could be killed. Like Phat said that was why DiPietro was killed in Philly. Lucchese Soldier Frank Lagano also whacked got whacked back in 2006 after it was revealed tht he was informing.

Pogo

by **phatmatress** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:03 am

Could be both i think that's why diepetro was killed in philly for that very reason

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by **HairyKnuckles** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:53 am

Totally unrelated to the topic of this thread, but what do you guys think happens to a made member who gets exposed (by the members) as a rat these days? Let´s say he´s an informant and have not testified against anybody. Will he get killed (seems unlikely) or simply chased?

by **phatmatress** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:56 pm

Five Felonies wrote:
British wrote:Best thing for some of the families would be to bring more zips in and get it back closer to its origins...
sicilians are not a commodity and can't just be imported like olive oil, assuming they even want to at this point which i highly doubt!

it seems like for the most part the families are policing themselves these days. 3 out of 5 are stable with solid leadership, i don't really see them having too much concern over what the 2 b league teams are up too, the best course of action seems to be just keeping their distance from the bottom shelf. i just don't see the genovese family risking any type of exposure at all to put a halt to the columbos making vito bumblefuck or sal the shitbag in this day and age. with that said, families that share alot of joint operations are sure to weigh in on possible members that could directly affect them and their rackets, with the genovese and luchesse construction partnerships being a prime example!

i think you hit the nail on the head with everything you said in this post

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by **SonnyBlackstein** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:14 pm

Five Felonies wrote: vito bumblefuck

Enjoyed that one.

by **Five Felonies** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:10 pm

British wrote:Best thing for some of the families would be to bring more zips in and get it back closer to its origins...

sicilians are not a commodity and can't just be imported like olive oil, assuming they even want to at this point which i highly doubt!

it seems like for the most part the families are policing themselves these days. 3 out of 5 are stable with solid leadership, i don't really see them having too much concern over what the 2 b league teams are up too, the best course of action seems to be just keeping their distance from the bottom shelf. i just don't see the genovese family risking any type of exposure at all to put a halt to the columbos making vito bumblefuck or sal the shitbag in this day and age. with that said, families that share alot of joint operations are sure to weigh in on possible members that could directly affect them and their rackets, with the genovese and luchesse construction partnerships being a prime example!

by **British** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:11 am

Are the books permanently open these days?

But the problem the families have is there are very few decent candidates that meet the criteria?

Best thing for some of the families would be to bring more zips in and get it back closer to its origins...

by **johnny_scootch** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:59 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Just because the commission doesnt meet doesnt mean new guys dont get their names passed round and have to be vetted by each familes respective ruling body.

They may not meet to discuss rackets as a committee, but numbers are still regulated and vetted.

I didn't say they don't pass the list around what I am trying to get at is we know for a fact that the families lie to each other about replacing men, Sal Vitale said he looked up names in the phone book and put them on the list as guys he would be replacing to add members and it worked. No one guy knows how many members each family has or every single member of each family when the list gets passed. So what if all the families pulled the phone book trick? Who's to stop them? And if they did get caught who would decide the penalty and enforce it? I think it's logical to assume since the demise of the commission some of these type of rules may have died with it.

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:30 am

johnny_scootch wrote:How can anyone be sure that without a functioning commission to enforce them the rules such as how many men a family can have, the 2 guys at christmas time, you can't replace murdered guys and rules of this nature are actually still in effect? I would assume that without an overall governing entity some sort of chaos has to have ensued (similar to what went on prior to the commissions existence) and each family would try to gain from this and get a leg up on one another. Back in the day one of the worst things that could happen to a family was it would lose its commission seat. So how can their be a consequence for making 10 guys at christmas time or replacing a couple murdered members without a commission to enact it?

Just because the commission doesnt meet doesnt mean new guys dont get their names passed round and have to be vetted by each familes respective ruling body.

They may not meet to discuss rackets as a committee, but numbers are still regulated and vetted.

by **Chaps** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:18 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote:Can rats be replaced? I'd be more inclined to believe rats cannot be replaced than the above.

According to Sal Vitale, rats can only be replaced after they have died.

by **johnny_scootch** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:38 pm

How can anyone be sure that without a functioning commission to enforce them the rules such as how many men a family can have, the 2 guys at christmas time, you can't replace murdered guys and rules of this nature are actually still in effect? I would assume that without an overall governing entity some sort of chaos has to have ensued (similar to what went on prior to the commissions existence) and each family would try to gain from this and get a leg up on one another. Back in the day one of the worst things that could happen to a family was it would lose its commission seat. So how can their be a consequence for making 10 guys at christmas time or replacing a couple murdered members without a commission to enact it?

by **Wiseguy** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:40 am

Pete wrote:Wise guy your ignorance on Detroit suggest you don't read the gangster report

I actually read his blog quite often. Once again, I don't take what Scott says about Detroit as the Gospel truth or use his info as my only source on the current state of the Detroit mob. You apparently do.

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