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Re: General Mob Questions

by Ivan » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:51 pm

Is Fat Mike Sarno the recent Outfit boss related to Big Al Sarno?

Re: Carlo Gambino Jr.

by JoelTurner » Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:42 pm

JogodoBicho wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:38 am I was reading the biography of Carlos Gambino on Wikipedia and sew that he had 4 sons. Thomas, Joseph and Phyllis are well-known, but Carlo Gambino Junior I never heard anything about.
Researching in google, I found an article in that said that he lived in Australia. That is correct? 

Article: https://wikitia.com/wiki/Carlo_Gambino_Junior
He did have a son named Carl.

Literally everything else is wrong though. Whoever wrote that must be a nut.

Carl’s still alive, listed as a living on Long Island with a residence in Florida. He owns meat markets and real estate. Never involved in crime from what I can tell.

Re: General Mob Questions

by CornerBoy » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:40 am

Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:26 pm
CornerBoy wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:59 am
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:15 am
Newyorkempire wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:12 am Im so afraid. Who said I believe them? Are you ok? Spiraling real good. So you believe others not just indictments??? What a legend.
It's common knowledge that Jackie DiNorscio wasn't made. The only one who apparently isn't aware of this is you. You were looking to troll, because Rooster is off his meds again, and you overstepped yet again. Face it, almost every time you post, you demonstrate how much you don't know about the mob. You need to stay at the little kid's table where you belong.
Wiseguy- have you ever been to ny and spent any time in the company of any of these guys? You discount primary sources (who could be lying but why?)and subscribe only to conteents if articles, FBI reports and god knows what else. LE reports are often inaccurate or deliberate misinformation. Reading books from lying rats are iffy. There is no way to be certain of anything in bs world of mafia. state your opinion based on the sources avail to you but don't discredit a neighborhood guy simply bc some LE report says so. i come to Deer Valley twice a year and have watched docs on mormons in Utah, spoken to several, read some books etc. Does that qualify me to make absolute statements about the Mormon community in areas like Sandy etc? Of course not. the bullsshit that the govt and informers put out there sshoudl be viewed w healthy degree of skepticism. dont assail someone who says they know joey the blade or carmine the creep. could be bullshsit but oftentimes not.
So you're yelling me I should give more credibility to nameless sources on the internet (because of their zipcode) than the feds or former mob figures?

name a few credible "former mob figures" from the last 30 yrs? Listen to what the FBI puts out. keep doing that, boy.

And when it comes to the subject of DiNorscio, he was always identified across the board as an associate and never a made guy. That we're even having this conversation (again), based on him, is ridiculous.

Re: General Mob Questions

by FriendofHenry » Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:28 pm

OmarSantista wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:49 pm Interesting he said this uncle of his was close to "the DeBartolo's" who's lineage (he emphasised) today owns the 49ers. Which is crazy. Generational wealth is insane especially when the generations before were Mafiosi or apart of the "partito" as Justin Cascio coined. As I was looking at the search results here under the DeBartolo name I was shocked to see Ed DeBartolo Jr. lost the team due to bribery, lmao old traditions (as Joe Bonanno would say) must die hard. This guy is in the fucking NFL Hall of Fame lmao. The sister's middle name is DeBartolo, the current owner. Just baffling stuff to me.
"He" - Meaning one of our forum members actually knew the DeBartolos ;)

Re: General Mob Questions

by OmarSantista » Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:49 pm

Interesting he said this uncle of his was close to "the DeBartolo's" who's lineage (he emphasised) today owns the 49ers. Which is crazy. Generational wealth is insane especially when the generations before were Mafiosi or apart of the "partito" as Justin Cascio coined. As I was looking at the search results here under the DeBartolo name I was shocked to see Ed DeBartolo Jr. lost the team due to bribery, lmao old traditions (as Joe Bonanno would say) must die hard. This guy is in the fucking NFL Hall of Fame lmao. The sister's middle name is DeBartolo, the current owner. Just baffling stuff to me.

Re: General Mob Questions

by UTC » Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:16 pm

I recall noting that spelling on a guy in Presser's book.

Re: General Mob Questions

by OmarSantista » Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:49 pm

I just met a guy at a brewery whose family’s Italian side comes from northern Italy but said he was first generation because his parents docked at Ellis island, settled in Washington’s crossing, PA and eluded strongly to his uncle Dominick visconsi was being a mafioso, has anyone heard of the name visconsi, I’ve heard of Visconti but not the former.

Re: General Mob Questions

by cobra » Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:12 am

- michele sindona connected in 1960s with three "exponents of american cosa nostra"
- i am highly doubting because i never saw the names before
- all from pittsburgh
- daniel porco vp crucible steelworks pittsburgh and board member of uranya company which later implicated in financial scandals
- ernest gengarella
- ralph vio
- last two guys make companies with sindona and supposed to have interests in las vegas casinos
- anybody knows more?

Carlo Gambino Jr.

by JogodoBicho » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:38 am

I was reading the biography of Carlos Gambino on Wikipedia and sew that he had 4 sons. Thomas, Joseph and Phyllis are well-known, but Carlo Gambino Junior I never heard anything about.
Researching in google, I found an article in that said that he lived in Australia. That is correct? 

Article: https://wikitia.com/wiki/Carlo_Gambino_Junior

Re: General Mob Questions

by B. » Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:29 pm

Esposito was originally a DeCavalcante associate proposed for membership who was released to the Bonannos due to his relation to DeSimone, so DeSimone is a good bet.

Re: General Mob Questions

by johnny_scootch » Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:01 am

CornerBoy wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:16 am
he's from queens, right? HB? under giallanzo at one pt?
I don't know.

Re: General Mob Questions

by CornerBoy » Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:16 am

johnny_scootch wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:43 am
CornerBoy wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:34 am whose crew was simone esposito in?
It’s likely he was under Joe DeSimone before becoming acting Consigliere then Consigliere and being shelved for stealing money.

Unconfirmed word on street he was addicted to oxy and basically doing anything for money.
he's from queens, right? HB? under giallanzo at one pt?

Re: General Mob Questions

by CornerBoy » Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:11 am

im not even talking about dinorscio.

all of these rats get discredited sooner or later. Well, not all but a lot.

if you think the feds are infallible or tell the truth all the time, you're naive.

not saying you have to believe guys talking about their neighborhood but you don't have to cast aspersions or question the veracity of their statements

i was trying to type in a friendly tone, often, the written word gets lost in translation.

Pogo- i won't dignify you're invective w a response except to say don't talk back and finish mowing the lawn before your foreman gets out of his pick up
to chastise you.

Re: General Mob Questions

by Pogo The Clown » Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:29 pm

CornerBoy has to be the dumbest poster on here and that is saying something.


Pogo

Re: General Mob Questions

by Wiseguy » Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:26 pm

CornerBoy wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:59 am
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:15 am
Newyorkempire wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:12 am Im so afraid. Who said I believe them? Are you ok? Spiraling real good. So you believe others not just indictments??? What a legend.
It's common knowledge that Jackie DiNorscio wasn't made. The only one who apparently isn't aware of this is you. You were looking to troll, because Rooster is off his meds again, and you overstepped yet again. Face it, almost every time you post, you demonstrate how much you don't know about the mob. You need to stay at the little kid's table where you belong.
Wiseguy- have you ever been to ny and spent any time in the company of any of these guys? You discount primary sources (who could be lying but why?)and subscribe only to conteents if articles, FBI reports and god knows what else. LE reports are often inaccurate or deliberate misinformation. Reading books from lying rats are iffy. There is no way to be certain of anything in bs world of mafia. state your opinion based on the sources avail to you but don't discredit a neighborhood guy simply bc some LE report says so. i come to Deer Valley twice a year and have watched docs on mormons in Utah, spoken to several, read some books etc. Does that qualify me to make absolute statements about the Mormon community in areas like Sandy etc? Of course not. the bullsshit that the govt and informers put out there sshoudl be viewed w healthy degree of skepticism. dont assail someone who says they know joey the blade or carmine the creep. could be bullshsit but oftentimes not.
So you're yelling me I should give more credibility to nameless sources on the internet (because of their zipcode) than the feds or former mob figures?

And when it comes to the subject of DiNorscio, he was always identified across the board as an associate and never a made guy. That we're even having this conversation (again), based on him, is ridiculous.

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