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Confederate wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:53 am

Adam wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:49 am Thanks guys. I appreciate the discussion. And I've got absolutely nothing to back up Infelice being a possible informant. And it's true that if you take all the Outfit guys Roemer "liked" and called them informers then that would be like half the Outfit. Clearly not the case. But sometimes certain stuff Roemer wrote makes me do a double take. Like his claim that Chuckie English reached out to him to check that Infelice wasn't involved in drugs before he got promoted. And that Roemer let them know that no he wasn't. I mean what the fuck?

Yeh I know, that was another one where I shook my head for many reasons. lol

Adam wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:49 am Thanks guys. I appreciate the discussion. And I've got absolutely nothing to back up Infelice being a possible informant. And it's true that if you take all the Outfit guys Roemer "liked" and called them informers then that would be like half the Outfit. Clearly not the case. But sometimes certain stuff Roemer wrote makes me do a double take. Like his claim that Chuckie English reached out to him to check that Infelice wasn't involved in drugs before he got promoted. And that Roemer let them know that no he wasn't. I mean what the fuck?

Frank wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:49 pm

Adam wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:02 pm So in The Enfocer, Roemer writes about the supposed 1986 Czech Lounge meeting where Ferriola is announced as boss and that the Spilotro murder is ordered. He explicitly states that one person there was a CTE. He lists those present as Accardo, Ferriola, Alex, Solano, Pilotto, Infelice, DiFronzo, Carlisi, Palermo and Blasi. So I'm wondering if he still counted Blasi, or if there was someone else. If he'd referring to a different active CTE I'm thinking Infelice. Former was always pretty glowing about him too.

Well if you believe this whole story Roemer wrote than the CI is Blasi. Pilotto was definitely in prison. At least 2 people that I know of , Nick Calabrese and Lenny Patrick have stated that Carlisi was boss after Aiuppa. So I tend to think this whole meeting never happened. I also don't think Infelise was an informant.

Snakes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:03 am Yeah, I think it was made up or embellished, with Roemer saying he had a CI (Blasi) there to add legitimacy to the story. I don't think it was an outright lie but I don't think he let the facts get in the way of a good story, either.

Adam wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:02 pm So in The Enfocer, Roemer writes about the supposed 1986 Czech Lounge meeting where Ferriola is announced as boss and that the Spilotro murder is ordered. He explicitly states that one person there was a CTE. He lists those present as Accardo, Ferriola, Alex, Solano, Pilotto, Infelice, DiFronzo, Carlisi, Palermo and Blasi. So I'm wondering if he still counted Blasi, or if there was someone else. If he'd referring to a different active CTE I'm thinking Infelice. Former was always pretty glowing about him too.

Ed wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:48 pm

Adam wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:02 pm So in The Enfocer, Roemer writes about the supposed 1986 Czech Lounge meeting where Ferriola is announced as boss and that the Spilotro murder is ordered. He explicitly states that one person there was a CTE. He lists those present as Accardo, Ferriola, Alex, Solano, Pilotto, Infelice, DiFronzo, Carlisi, Palermo and Blasi. So I'm wondering if he still counted Blasi, or if there was someone else. If he'd referring to a different active CTE I'm thinking Infelice. Former was always pretty glowing about him too.

If I'm not mistaken, Roemer mentioned in one of his other books (besides Enforcer) that Blasi retired after he was released from jail in the late 1970s. So who knows. As well, I think Roemer mentioned that he developed another guy by the mid-1970s who ended becoming a capo later on so maybe he's talking about him.

There was probably at least ten LCN members in Chicago "talking" to some degree by the 1970s.

Roemer definitely had respect for Infelice.

Adam wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:02 pm So in The Enfocer, Roemer writes about the supposed 1986 Czech Lounge meeting where Ferriola is announced as boss and that the Spilotro murder is ordered. He explicitly states that one person there was a CTE. He lists those present as Accardo, Ferriola, Alex, Solano, Pilotto, Infelice, DiFronzo, Carlisi, Palermo and Blasi. So I'm wondering if he still counted Blasi, or if there was someone else. If he'd referring to a different active CTE I'm thinking Infelice. Former was always pretty glowing about him too.

Snakes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:07 pm I always thought that version of events was fishy. Pilotto was in prison, for one.

Confederate wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:50 pm As Usual, Great article Ed. I noticed that Blasi mentioned Torello in the same sentence as Accardo, Cerone & Auippa which is the way I see it. Had Torello not died in 1979, he would have been Auippa's replacement. Blasi was a very cagey guy and everything still points to him as Giancana's shooter.
Giancana would have never suspected him and Blasi was not known to be a killer anyway. Roemer secretly wanted to be an Outfit guy. lol