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Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by willychichi » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:07 pm

MikeyRiens11 wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:02 am Schratweiser is saying on Twitter that Dom Grande's home was vandalized last week.
https://twitter.com/DSchratwieser?ref_s ... r%5Eauthor

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by Cheech » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:19 pm

some guy was at the card game and told Burnstein. Unlikely IMO but I guess not out of the question. its just the quotes are always cinematic.

“Gino told Tony Nics (Anthony Nicodemo) to go fuck himself and he did it in front of a bunch of people,” a source recounted to Gangster Report of the beef. “Nics just stood there and smiled for a while and then he kicked him out….they were both yelling. Gino called him a wannabe and Anthony said yeah, you’re gonna wanna be in another country in about two seconds if you don’t kick bricks. Anthony ain’t someone to trifle with. Everyone knows that. Gino just didn’t care.”

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by Cheech » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:16 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:00 am So many of his sources "quotes" sound fabricated. I now I'm not the only one who has noticed that in the past. As for his LE sources, while I'm sure he has some, so much of his info that he attributes to his LE sources have been proven to be either totally wrong or completely at odds with what LE actually says. So it is impossible to tell how much of what he says actually comes from LE or is something he just includes to give his articles more credibility.


Pogo
At that time already a suspect in multiple mob executions, Nicodemo, per the sources, sought and received permission from crime family administrators to kill DiPietro as retribution for his disrespect. Two sources claim Nicodemo discussed the issue with Philly Godfather Skinny Joey Merlino, who relocated to Florida following his release from a dozen-year stay federal prison in 2011 and was in town for his father’s funeral in October 2012, and Merlino sanctioned the job, telling Nicodemo to “handle it anyway you want.”

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by Cheech » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:06 pm

Chucky wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:31 am For what it's worth, Scott did mention Borgesi meeting with a Gambino member in Florida and it was later confirmed by Capeci to be Joe Bilotti.
I remember that cause Nicodemo was on a tape saying "i dont care if its Joe Bilotti or some guy from Chicago!"

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by MikeyRiens11 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:02 am

Schratweiser is saying on Twitter that Dom Grande's home was vandalized last week.

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by Pogo The Clown » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:00 am

So many of his sources "quotes" sound fabricated. I now I'm not the only one who has noticed that in the past. As for his LE sources, while I'm sure he has some, so much of his info that he attributes to his LE sources have been proven to be either totally wrong or completely at odds with what LE actually says. So it is impossible to tell how much of what he says actually comes from LE or is something he just includes to give his articles more credibility.


Pogo

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by JohnnyS » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:49 am

IIRC the article he wrote basically said Mazzone slowing down and Lance was going to be the guy between Mazzone and the capos then as time went on it became clear (from the Merlino trial) that Lance was running things for Merlino as Mazzone took more of a backseat.

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by JohnnyS » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:45 am

Frank wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:46 am He did mention Lancelotti as street boss a few years ago, which now seems to be accurate.
Good point. He reported back in 2015 that Lance was moving up and taking over the daily operations. He also mentioned Grande taking over Lance's crew back then which seems spot on.

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by Chucky » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:34 am

willychichi wrote: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:39 am I don't doubt Burnstein has reliable sources in Philly which he probably developed when he was doing the Leonetti book. His tabloid writing style is hard to take some times, but he has been right about this family's recent activities on several occasions.
I have only read a handful of his articles, a few of the Philly ones (I don't know shit about the midwest or Boston), and it's like reading the national inquirer. If he changed his fuckin goofy writing style he'd be taken more seriously.

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by Frank » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:46 am

He did mention Lancelotti as street boss a few years ago, which now seems to be accurate.

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by willychichi » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:39 am

I don't doubt Burnstein has reliable sources in Philly which he probably developed when he was doing the Leonetti book. His tabloid writing style is hard to take some times, but he has been right about this family's recent activities on several occasions.

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by Chucky » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:31 am

For what it's worth, Scott did mention Borgesi meeting with a Gambino member in Florida and it was later confirmed by Capeci to be Joe Bilotti.

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by Confederate » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:43 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:06 pm
Fughedaboutit wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:45 am
SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:40 am We should not always throw ScottB out with the bath water fellas.
Over the years he has developed contacts in several areas. Tim White
in Providence is one of them...
While some may not like his writing style or think he is full of BS...I really don't think he just makes shit up. He gets it from somewhere...I mean speculation based on what he may have heard or been told is better than nothing IMO...Remember that he does have law enforcement contacts that some of you so highly tout

If we are going off the mob and pure fact on current affairs we would have nothing to talk about
Whilst he likely doesn't fabricate, his errors, non confirmation and general outright 'speculation' (refer example of Merlino giving the DePietro order) are so egregious and common that his trust-worthyness for 'journalism' is rendered almost completely useless.
The instances and examples are so numerous as to leave his work in the realm of simple speculation which is more oft than not proven false.
We read him because of his rarity in the field, not his quality or history of work.

And I WANT to believe him, but he's basically proven you do so at your own peril if youre looking for the truth.
Very well stated. In addition, the speculation, sensation and errors in the Chicago and Detroit articles are staggering. Yeh, I know, he's a nice guy blah, blah, blah... lol

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by SonnyBlackstein » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:07 pm

TJ wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:30 pm vetere was never jn a uniom, teamsters or otherwise, was never on a movie set, and never was a body guard, anywhere, ever..and i am pretty sure george and matty were never in the same facility
Exhibit number 1146 your honour.

Re: Borgesi Running New England Crew

by SonnyBlackstein » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:06 pm

Fughedaboutit wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:45 am
SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:40 am We should not always throw ScottB out with the bath water fellas.
Over the years he has developed contacts in several areas. Tim White
in Providence is one of them...
While some may not like his writing style or think he is full of BS...I really don't think he just makes shit up. He gets it from somewhere...I mean speculation based on what he may have heard or been told is better than nothing IMO...Remember that he does have law enforcement contacts that some of you so highly tout

If we are going off the mob and pure fact on current affairs we would have nothing to talk about
Whilst he likely doesn't fabricate, his errors, non confirmation and general outright 'speculation' (refer example of Merlino giving the DePietro order) are so egregious and common that his trust-worthyness for 'journalism' is rendered almost completely useless.
The instances and examples are so numerous as to leave his work in the realm of simple speculation which is more oft than not proven false.
We read him because of his rarity in the field, not his quality or history of work.

And I WANT to believe him, but he's basically proven you do so at your own peril if youre looking for the truth.

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