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Re: Sammy the bull

by Frank » Thu May 10, 2018 11:08 am

newera_212 wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 8:53 am
Frank wrote: Sat May 05, 2018 11:49 am
newera_212 wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 10:34 pm did Parrello's son hit the LoCascio kid? or Patsy Sr. hit him? if it was Patsy Senior than it was one made guy hitting another, could have been settled with a meeting, apology, and some money. clipping the guy's (civillian?) son is a scumbag move
Yes that it is. Maybe there is more to the story than we know. Maybe LoCascio wasn't as out of line as reported and Parello was more out of line than reported. Or other behind the scenes things could have been going on. I wonder if the Gambino contacted the Genovese leadership about it. Or if the LoCascio's just took action on there own. Who knows, Parello could have refused to attend a sit down or other things we don't know. It's hard to get the whole entire story.
good points. but yeah, exactly. we're never going to get the full truth, just like the nick cirillo disappearance.

was nick cirillo ever pronounced as dead? or did he just disappear?
He disappeared, body never found, unless somebody has some updated news. Not sure if he has been pronounced dead.

Re: Sammy the bull

by Frank » Thu May 10, 2018 11:04 am

newera_212 wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 8:53 am
Frank wrote: Sat May 05, 2018 11:49 am
newera_212 wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 10:34 pm did Parrello's son hit the LoCascio kid? or Patsy Sr. hit him? if it was Patsy Senior than it was one made guy hitting another, could have been settled with a meeting, apology, and some money. clipping the guy's (civillian?) son is a scumbag move
Yes that it is. Maybe there is more to the story than we know. Maybe LoCascio wasn't as out of line as reported and Parello was more out of line than reported. Or other behind the scenes things could have been going on. I wonder if the Gambino contacted the Genovese leadership about it. Or if the LoCascio's just took action on there own. Who knows, Parello could have refused to attend a sit down or other things we don't know. It's hard to get the whole entire story.
good points. but yeah, exactly. we're never going to get the full truth, just like the nick cirillo disappearance.

was nick cirillo ever pronounced as dead? or did he just disappear?

Re: Sammy the bull

by newera_212 » Thu May 10, 2018 8:53 am

Frank wrote: Sat May 05, 2018 11:49 am
newera_212 wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 10:34 pm did Parrello's son hit the LoCascio kid? or Patsy Sr. hit him? if it was Patsy Senior than it was one made guy hitting another, could have been settled with a meeting, apology, and some money. clipping the guy's (civillian?) son is a scumbag move
Yes that it is. Maybe there is more to the story than we know. Maybe LoCascio wasn't as out of line as reported and Parello was more out of line than reported. Or other behind the scenes things could have been going on. I wonder if the Gambino contacted the Genovese leadership about it. Or if the LoCascio's just took action on there own. Who knows, Parello could have refused to attend a sit down or other things we don't know. It's hard to get the whole entire story.
good points. but yeah, exactly. we're never going to get the full truth, just like the nick cirillo disappearance.

was nick cirillo ever pronounced as dead? or did he just disappear?

Re: Sammy the bull

by Frank » Sat May 05, 2018 11:49 am

newera_212 wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 10:34 pm did Parrello's son hit the LoCascio kid? or Patsy Sr. hit him? if it was Patsy Senior than it was one made guy hitting another, could have been settled with a meeting, apology, and some money. clipping the guy's (civillian?) son is a scumbag move
Yes that it is. Maybe there is more to the story than we know. Maybe LoCascio wasn't as out of line as reported and Parello was more out of line than reported. Or other behind the scenes things could have been going on. I wonder if the Gambino contacted the Genovese leadership about it. Or if the LoCascio's just took action on there own. Who knows, Parello could have refused to attend a sit down or other things we don't know. It's hard to get the whole entire story.

Re: Sammy the bull

by NYNighthawk » Sat May 05, 2018 10:30 am

Patsy Parrello is a man's man. You don't act like Torie did and go into any restaurant - connected or not - and interrupt someone's business and livelihood. Frankie Loc should have taken out his son himself when he came home and told him what happened. The old man was always a sneaky phuck. I'm disappointed that patsy didn't take out a whole crew of the Gambino's for what they did to his son. I would have whacked Greg DePalma who was always around Belmont Ave as well as his crew. The only problem was Jack Falcone might have beent aken down with them and that would have opened up more problems - whacking an FBI agent.

Re: Sammy the bull

by Pogo The Clown » Sat May 05, 2018 7:59 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: Sat May 05, 2018 7:55 am was tore in his dad's crew? he wasnt capo when his dad was indicted I don't believe

Yes. He was Acting Capo for his father.


Pogo

Re: Sammy the bull

by JeremyTheJew » Sat May 05, 2018 7:55 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat May 05, 2018 5:56 am From Dom Cicale's debriefings it was the Genoveses who killed Cirillo.


Pogo
as well as basciano is on tape saying "They took care of it them selfs." didn't he? or something that was clear he meant the Genovese.

was tore in his dad's crew? he wasnt capo when his dad was indicted I don't believe

Re: Sammy the bull

by Pogo The Clown » Sat May 05, 2018 5:56 am

From Dom Cicale's debriefings it was the Genoveses who killed Cirillo.


Pogo

Re: Sammy the bull

by TwoPiece » Sat May 05, 2018 5:38 am

NYNighthawk wrote: Sat May 05, 2018 5:32 am Dom Cirillo actually gave up his son to be hit by Basciano - nice family huh?
That's been debated heavily over the years

Re: Sammy the bull

by NYNighthawk » Sat May 05, 2018 5:32 am

Dom Cirillo actually gave up his son to be hit by Basciano - nice family huh?

Re: Sammy the bull

by Wiseguy » Fri May 04, 2018 10:49 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 6:24 pm
NYNighthawk wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 4:54 pm Patsy did the right thing by straightening out Torrie Locascio who has rode on his father;s coattails for too long. Phuck the rules abut putting your hands on a made man. The rules are broke everyday in the mob. The old man Frankie Locs had a hit put on him in the can by Gotti himself. Too bad it wasn't carried out. I hope the Genovese family takes out Victor Mirdita and follows that up with the taking out of Torrie and Sal later on.
i heard tore loc is one of the few that did not ride their fathers "coat tails.

Regardless thats one of the most important rules. It defeats the purpose of being made of retribution didn't happen.

and yes, this is exactly like Cirillo son. .... who did his son hit? Basciano?
Coattails or not, Tore was a huge earner.

As for Nicholas Cirillo, it was reportedly an altercation with Vincent Basciano Jr. and Dominick Cicale.

Re: Sammy the bull

by newera_212 » Fri May 04, 2018 10:34 pm

did Parrello's son hit the LoCascio kid? or Patsy Sr. hit him? if it was Patsy Senior than it was one made guy hitting another, could have been settled with a meeting, apology, and some money. clipping the guy's (civillian?) son is a scumbag move

Re: Sammy the bull

by JeremyTheJew » Fri May 04, 2018 6:24 pm

NYNighthawk wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 4:54 pm Patsy did the right thing by straightening out Torrie Locascio who has rode on his father;s coattails for too long. Phuck the rules abut putting your hands on a made man. The rules are broke everyday in the mob. The old man Frankie Locs had a hit put on him in the can by Gotti himself. Too bad it wasn't carried out. I hope the Genovese family takes out Victor Mirdita and follows that up with the taking out of Torrie and Sal later on.
i heard tore loc is one of the few that did not ride their fathers "coat tails.

Regardless thats one of the most important rules. It defeats the purpose of being made of retribution didn't happen.

and yes, this is exactly like Cirillo son. .... who did his son hit? Basciano?

Re: Sammy the bull

by NYNighthawk » Fri May 04, 2018 4:54 pm

Patsy did the right thing by straightening out Torrie Locascio who has rode on his father;s coattails for too long. Phuck the rules abut putting your hands on a made man. The rules are broke everyday in the mob. The old man Frankie Locs had a hit put on him in the can by Gotti himself. Too bad it wasn't carried out. I hope the Genovese family takes out Victor Mirdita and follows that up with the taking out of Torrie and Sal later on.

Re: Sammy the bull

by Frank » Fri May 04, 2018 3:51 pm

Fughedaboutit wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 12:40 pm Another twist...seems like the Genovese were involved in the murder of the alibi witness for the shooter


THE SON of the Police Department's authority on fingerprints has disappeared without a trace. Steve Aiello, 23, whose testimony helped free a man charged with killing a powerful mobster's son, was last seen leaving his father's Morris Park house in the Bronx. Police believe Aiello may have been kidnaped and murdered by Genovese mobsters seeking retribution. His father, Frank, one of the most highly regarded civilians at 1 Police Plaza, runs the NYPD's Bureau of Criminal Investigation. He is a friend of every detective boss in the department. If a bad guy has hands, senior police officials say, Frank Aiello will find the fingerprints. The department's organized crime investigators are hard at work trying to find Missing Person No. 7734, 5-foot-8, brown eyes and brown hair. The kid knew his share of guys. By the time Steve Aiello disappeared Sept. 11, he was well known to FBI mob watchers. According to law enforcement sources, the story may trace to an incident in which reputed Genovese soldier Patsy Parrello slapped Torrie LoCascio, the son of imprisoned Gambino underboss Frank LoCascio, in front of a Bronx social club. The Gambinos, apparently seeking revenge, hired Victor Mirdita, an Albanian who was friendly with LoCascio's former driver, the sources said. On April 26, 1993, Parrello's son Pasquale, 24, was shot to death. Police arrested and charged Mirdita with murder. He was caught at the scene with a gun. On the eve of the trial this summer, the defense found an alibi witness Steve Aiello. He testified without ever telling his father, and Mirdita was acquitted. Assistant District Attorney William Hrabsky believes Aiello perjured himself.
Interesting, good find.

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