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Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Villain » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:16 am

In addition, during the Kennedy administration these guys really had a problem meaning a lot of their operations and top guys went down the line. For example, in 1959 when the Outfit's top boss Paul Ricca was indicted on income tax evasions, before the trial Humphreys and Alex apparently had a detective agency, which placed surveillance on practically all the jurors in the case in order to develop information, but still the old boss was again sentenced to jail. It was after that, when the boys really began to sweat and this time they pulled the strings so Ricca can get an appeal and after two years he won a "fair" trial, and in 1961 was released on $5,000 bond

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Villain » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:38 am

Confederate wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:48 am Murray Humphreys, Gus Alex, Ralph Pierce, Lenny Patrick, Les Kruse, Eddie Vogel etc. were all members of the Outfit but not members of the National Mafia. To the other guys in the Outfit, that was all that mattered. ;)
Nicely said, all they needed was to be connected to the US commission for any future business or any kind of chain projects. What occurred in their own organization, was none of the commission's care or anyone else's for that matter. BUT at some point we have to draw a line since if some Outfit boss or underboss or territorial boss died, then they were obliged to inform the commission on the new changes. Sometimes there were even bosses from the east coast during to so-called change meetings

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Confederate » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:48 am

Murray Humphreys, Gus Alex, Ralph Pierce, Lenny Patrick, Les Kruse, Eddie Vogel etc. were all members of the Outfit but not members of the National Mafia. To the other guys in the Outfit, that was all that mattered. ;)

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Villain » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:29 am

Frank wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:26 pm I still say that when Alex and then Marcy and Roti were convicted was devastating to the Outfit.
Absolutely correct, they lost their main shield

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Frank » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:26 pm

I still say that when Alex and then Marcy and Roti were convicted was devastating to the Outfit.

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by aleksandrored » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:59 pm

You are very good at your research, thank you for all the information.

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Villain » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:38 pm

I really dont know the real reason behind Luciano's parole but I know for sure that the time period between his and the Outfit's top admin early paroles was very short.

All of this info comes from reading a lot of FBI memos and also a lot of newspaper articles lol but seriously most of this stuff i managed to preserve in some of my articles

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by aleksandrored » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:22 pm

Got it, thanks again, where do you find all this information kkkkkkkkk.

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by aleksandrored » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:16 pm

if I am not mistaken there is a mini documentary that says that Chicago today is still moved on to crime and corruption, and that of Lucky Luciano he had not gained his freedom by agreement with the government involving the second war?

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Villain » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:13 pm

aleksandrored wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:19 pm
Villain wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:53 am
aleksandrored wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:40 am Great article villain, then it seems that to outfit the fact that he is a greek mobster did not stop him from being one of the high ranking members, which is strange because Frank Rosenthal could not get into the Outfit because he was not Italian, he just remained as an associate.
Thanks. Alex was never a member of the national Cosa Nostra organization, but instead he was an official and legit member of the Chicago Outfit. Although he had connections to many NY, NJ, or Midwest Cosa Nostra members which might bring you the doubt on their legitness regarding the whole CN tradition, meaning the U.S. Mob
Thanks for the explanation, and really Alex has gone far to achieve his goals, which is interesting and different at the same time, Outfit has many of these peculiarities when it involves politics and mafia.
You're welcome.

The Outfit and politics is another big chapter which stretches from the rise of Colosimo and maybe even further back, until possibly even today. During the 1940s they were probably at the top of the whole so-called corruption scheme since a year before the early paroles of the Outfit's top administration, Lucky Luciano also won his parole but he got deported, so I think that even today we still dont know on really who was who in the U.S. Mafia at the time.

For example in 1961, a confidential source for the FBI named several top Chicago policemen who received envelopes with $500 each on weekly bases, during an 8 years period. After that the feds estimated that the Outfit allegedly spent nearly 5 million dollars per year only for the corruption of high public officials, and was possibly the main reason for which almost none of the Chicago boys ever got deported, except for few exceptions such as Dominic Roberto and Gaetano Morgano, two guys who were placed lower in the Mafia's ranks than Luciano or Ricca.

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by aleksandrored » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:19 pm

Villain wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:53 am
aleksandrored wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:40 am Great article villain, then it seems that to outfit the fact that he is a greek mobster did not stop him from being one of the high ranking members, which is strange because Frank Rosenthal could not get into the Outfit because he was not Italian, he just remained as an associate.
Thanks. Alex was never a member of the national Cosa Nostra organization, but instead he was an official and legit member of the Chicago Outfit. Although he had connections to many NY, NJ, or Midwest Cosa Nostra members which might bring you the doubt on their legitness regarding the whole CN tradition, meaning the U.S. Mob
Thanks for the explanation, and really Alex has gone far to achieve his goals, which is interesting and different at the same time, Outfit has many of these peculiarities when it involves politics and mafia.

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Villain » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:00 am

In plane words this guy "sacrificed" his life and married an escort so he can change his name and finish the main job, which was expected from him and later received the power over other members as a reward.

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Villain » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:53 am

aleksandrored wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:40 am Great article villain, then it seems that to outfit the fact that he is a greek mobster did not stop him from being one of the high ranking members, which is strange because Frank Rosenthal could not get into the Outfit because he was not Italian, he just remained as an associate.
Thanks. Alex was never a member of the national Cosa Nostra organization, but instead he was an official and legit member of the Chicago Outfit. Although he had connections to many NY, NJ, or Midwest Cosa Nostra members which might bring you the doubt on their legitness regarding the whole CN tradition, meaning the U.S. Mob

Re: Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by aleksandrored » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:40 am

Great article villain, then it seems that to outfit the fact that he is a greek mobster did not stop him from being one of the high ranking members, which is strange because Frank Rosenthal could not get into the Outfit because he was not Italian, he just remained as an associate.

Chicago's "Mysterious" Mike Ryan 1940's

by Villain » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:17 am

This post is for those who are interested in the Outfit's specific history and its main occurrences such as their whole leadership being indicted in one case and the point is that none of the historians ever came to the bottom of the whole story or on who was the so-called "mysterious" individual who went by the name of "Mike Ryan" and spread all the corrupt cash for the early release of his bosses.

This happened during the early 1940's or should I say 1943, when every top boss such as Paul Ricca, Louis Campagna and Phil D'Andrea got imprisoned by the state up to 10 years regarding the infamous Hollywood extortion case. You see, many Mob historians almost never went into the depth of the whole story, meaning some of them never uncovered the real faces which were involved in the early paroles of the top guys. The so-called "early paroles" are something unbelievable, meaning all of the three top guys, including Roselli, were freed after serving 3 years and 4 months of the ten years sentence, which was quite strange since they were handed a sentences without the possibility of parole but the main problem was that according to the law they had to serve at least one third of their sentences. And as a matter of fact, Campagna and Gioe were sent back to prison for a hearing as to why they violated their paroles. Ricca was arrested on a similar warrant, but his return to prison was halted by court action, while D’Andrea had serious health issues so he was watched at his home and as for their underling Johnny Roselli, he was permitted to remain in Los Angeles jail. But on December 20, 1948, Federal Judge E. Marvin Underwood said “The evidence, adduced and unrebutted, shows that there was no violation of parole, and therefore no reliable information upon which to base the warrants" and so he released all of the bosses and all posted bonds of $5,000 each.

Of course the whole situation caused an uproar among the U.S. citizens, media and federal authorities and in 1948 government investigations were handed down thus creating a general report that the so-called major players in making of the early paroles were Chicago’s Jewish boss Jake Guzik, New York’s Genovese crime family boss Frank Costello and Owney Madden in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Everyone around the world knew that this was a huge corruption scandal which involved mobsters and obviously high level politicians and so many government hearings occurred which involved some of the previous names and also whole Chicago's southern Cicero crew such as Willie Heeney, Ralph Capone and Claude Maddox and also some West Side guys such as Pete Fosco and Ned Bakes a.k.a. Ignatius Spachese, both deeply infiltrated in the unions and First Ward politics. The reality was that all of these guys created a so-called "payoff fond" for every needed state senator or warden or attorney regarding the early paroles but none of the investigators were able to conclude on who gave or received what, expect of the fact for knowing for sure but having no evidences.

The thing was that some of the investigators found one clue or lead with the help of Spachese's big moth, meaning he was said to have told friends that he was previously informed that federal bureau of investigation agents would call on him to ask what help he had given to Ricca and the rest of the bosses in getting out of prison and later he had told the FBI nothing. The investigators mainly wanted to know if Bakes could tell the identity of a "mysterious Mike Ryan," the man who paid $15,000 to Attorney Maury Hughes as a fee for handling matter preliminary to securing federal paroles for the bosses and also allegedly visited other highly respected government individuals and gave them the same "treatment". As additional info, Hughes was a close pal of United States Attorney General Tom Clark, who was also probably involved in the securing of the paroles.

Now this is the point where I want to present to you my evidences on who was this key individual who took care of the whole cash flow.

In 1946 or 47, "coincidentally" just previous of the early paroles, Outfit member Gus Alex married a very beautiful blue-eyed bombshell named Marianne Ryan. The interesting and at the same time strange thing was that at the time they married in a very secret ceremony and some say they went to Santa Barbara, some say they went somewhere else around California and others to Las Vegas, Nevada. This was something quite odd for an Outfit guy of his up and coming status at the time. You see, Marianne came from Schuyler, Nebraska somewhere around the mid 1940’s at the age of 19 and was employed as a Chicago’s professional fashion model, which was the perfect target for Alex and the Outfit for their mission. At first she worked as a top model at the Carson Pirie Scott and Company and later she transferred to the College Inn of the Sherman Hotel in Chicago where she also worked as a “model” but only during the evening hours and that’s where she allegedly met the love of her life, which was Alex. So from that point on, everywhere he went, Alex's used his wife’s maiden name and represented himself as Mike Ryan. This can be confirmed in his FBI files, especially in aliases and also his travels such as the previously mentioned states or even in Yeraki, Greece.

This means that Alex was obviously the main "fixer" with the courage to deliver all of that cash to the various state senators, presidents and God knows who, which later opened his path to the top levels of the Chicago Outfit. Legend goes that Ricca gave his word since the forming of the Outfit that he was never going to let anyone who was an "outsider" or non-Italian on any top rank within their ranks but he always kept Alex in near company. Proof for that is one wiretapped convo between the Greek mobster and the Outfit's "father" where Alex stated that he was planning to take a trip to Naples and so Ricca advised him to inform him about the time of the trip so he can inform his people over there about his presence. When Ricca died in 1972, Tony Accardo allegedly "broke" the rule and brought Alex among the top boys as a legit or official Outfit member a.k.a. the "mysterious" Mike Ryan.

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