THE BLACK HAND FORUM

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:36 am

Frank wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:01 am That's interesting. It also shows that Joe Zerilli was definitely the top boss of Detroit. Handing out orders to Licavoli who was a boss on a panel of bosses in Detroit is proof that he was the top boss. Interesting that Licavoli was not happy with Detroit's younger Leadership.

i dont think its ever been questioned whether or not "joe uno" was top boss. the questions pertaining Zerilli is why he is considered Detroits "founding father" of The Partnership.

Detroit was in a 20 plus year war before Zerilli came in. Zerilli i was also on the Commision at one point, which is why Licavoli went to him im guessing.

Frank wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:01 am That's interesting. It also shows that Joe Zerilli was definitely the top boss of Detroit. Handing out orders to Licavoli who was a boss on a panel of bosses in Detroit is proof that he was the top boss. Interesting that Licavoli was not happy with Detroit's younger Leadership.

Villain wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:31 pm Something in addition regarding the Roselli's rackets besides the Movie industry and the CIA connections, in 1958 he became Assistant City Manager for the city of Las vegas and according to some FBI reports, Roselli muscled into the garbage business by buying off the top administration. With the help of Paul Dorfman, Jimmy Hoffa, the Teamster Union and with the financial backing of Bendal Kettleman, part owner of the El Rancho Casino, Roselli attacked the already established hauling firms through a firm which was on the downfall. In fact, Roselli got the idea when a guy named Max Choson, owner of a hauling firm, asked for help to return his hauling licence from political people back in Chicago who had close contacts to the Outfit and that is when Roselli came to the scene. Everything went smooth until two years later in 1961, the scandal was revealed by the media and the federal government and that’s when Roselli cut all of his connections to the operation and after that Choson lost all of his rights to ever haul garbage in the city of Las Vegas ever again.

B. wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:19 am 7 pages and next to nothing about Joe Bonanno's connections to Los Angeles and the alleged takeover, just my own speculation. As is typical with any topic with even the slightest hint of Chicago, it's arguing over bloated minutiae that adds nothing to the topic. Thanks to those of you who have contributed in a meaningful way.

Antiliar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:49 pm

Lupara wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:06 am

yatescj7781 wrote:Let's think about it this way. What's the highest tank rosselli held in L.A.? Who was his capo there? What crew? Now what rank did he hold in Chicago? Who was his Capo there? What crew?

Good questions, would like to know this as well.

Apologies to B. for being one of this thread's rapists..

Roselli was a soldier direct to Dragna, almost a second consiglieri next to Dragna's brother. In Chicago he apparently was a soldier direct to Giancana, although Red told me that he was the capo for the west coast. He didn't have anyone under him, so if he was a capo he was a "capo without a crew." He basically did his own thing after Giancana left Chicago. Accardo and Aiuppa didn't care for him, so his days were pretty much numbered.

Lupara wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:06 am

yatescj7781 wrote:Let's think about it this way. What's the highest tank rosselli held in L.A.? Who was his capo there? What crew? Now what rank did he hold in Chicago? Who was his Capo there? What crew?

Good questions, would like to know this as well.

Apologies to B. for being one of this thread's rapists..

Confederate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:16 pm

yatescj7781 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:57 pm

Antiliar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:40 pm

Villain wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:23 pm

Antiliar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:15 pm Villain, do you have a link to the informant who claimed that Pinelli transferred to the Los Angeles Family? My understanding is that he was always with Chicago, just like Frank Milano lived in L.A. but was always with Cleveland.

As for numbers, 60 at its peak is probably accurate.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... membership

I have that one and forgot about it. Thanks for the link and jarring my memory.

The TE in that document is Bomp?

Anonymous.

yatescj7781 wrote:Let's think about it this way. What's the highest tank rosselli held in L.A.? Who was his capo there? What crew? Now what rank did he hold in Chicago? Who was his Capo there? What crew?