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Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by gohnjotti » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:50 pm

newera_212 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:42 pm it's free Ronnie G until you can say it backwards

when he was on the street, Howard Beach residents didnt even have to lock their doors at night
:lol:

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by newera_212 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:42 pm

it's free Ronnie G until you can say it backwards

when he was on the street, Howard Beach residents didnt even have to lock their doors at night

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by SonnyBlackstein » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:17 pm

Chucky wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:39 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:17 am
Chucky wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:53 am With his priors, attempted murder, extortion, shy? He may not have gotten 30 years, but he would have gotten nailed, a lot more than 14 years.
The guidelines stated 7 years.
I know what it said, and my guess is he'll look to appeal it given the circumstances.
100% appeal, what that will result in, who knows.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by Chucky » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:39 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:17 am
Chucky wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:53 am With his priors, attempted murder, extortion, shy? He may not have gotten 30 years, but he would have gotten nailed, a lot more than 14 years.
The guidelines stated 7 years.
I know what it said, and my guess is he'll look to appeal it given the circumstances.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by gohnjotti » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:39 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:17 am
Chucky wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:53 am With his priors, attempted murder, extortion, shy? He may not have gotten 30 years, but he would have gotten nailed, a lot more than 14 years.
The guidelines stated 7 years.
That's for his plea, no? At trial he wouldn't have had those guidelines, I assume. And attempted murder/murder conspiracy carries a lot of weight - a lot more than seven years worth of weight. Then you combine all the other crimes - extortion, loansharking, racketeering conspiracy. He could've easily gotten 20 years.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by SonnyBlackstein » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:17 am

Chucky wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:53 am With his priors, attempted murder, extortion, shy? He may not have gotten 30 years, but he would have gotten nailed, a lot more than 14 years.
The guidelines stated 7 years.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by Chucky » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:53 am

With his priors, attempted murder, extortion, shy? He may not have gotten 30 years, but he would have gotten nailed, a lot more than 14 years.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:28 pm

Chucky wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:27 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:44 pm
Chucky wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:36 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:09 pm Ridiculous that ON A PLEA he’s sentenced to DOUBLE the recommended guidelines.

A plea he should’ve got around the recommended, otherwise what’s the point.
That's the risk you take, he aint the first guy to get nailed in a plea. Giallanzo is no boy scout either, this guy and his crew were really throwing their weight around up there.
I’m no fan of Ronnie G, but if judges start handing out overs on plea’s it disincentivises people plea bargaining and saving the government the time, expense and possibility of loss at trial.
A plea MUST offer incentive over trial.
If he lost at trial he could have gotten 30+, he still didn't make out too bad. With time already served and if he does if time quietly he'll be out in 10 years. Not a walk in the park, but better than what he would have been dealt with if he lost at trial.
There’s no chance he’s 30+.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by Chucky » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:27 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:44 pm
Chucky wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:36 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:09 pm Ridiculous that ON A PLEA he’s sentenced to DOUBLE the recommended guidelines.

A plea he should’ve got around the recommended, otherwise what’s the point.
That's the risk you take, he aint the first guy to get nailed in a plea. Giallanzo is no boy scout either, this guy and his crew were really throwing their weight around up there.
I’m no fan of Ronnie G, but if judges start handing out overs on plea’s it disincentivises people plea bargaining and saving the government the time, expense and possibility of loss at trial.
A plea MUST offer incentive over trial.
If he lost at trial he could have gotten 30+, he still didn't make out too bad. With time already served and if he does if time quietly he'll be out in 10 years. Not a walk in the park, but better than what he would have been dealt with if he lost at trial.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:44 pm

Chucky wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:36 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:09 pm Ridiculous that ON A PLEA he’s sentenced to DOUBLE the recommended guidelines.

A plea he should’ve got around the recommended, otherwise what’s the point.
That's the risk you take, he aint the first guy to get nailed in a plea. Giallanzo is no boy scout either, this guy and his crew were really throwing their weight around up there.
I’m no fan of Ronnie G, but if judges start handing out overs on plea’s it disincentivises people plea bargaining and saving the government the time, expense and possibility of loss at trial.
A plea MUST offer incentive over trial.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by JeremyTheJew » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:06 pm

I don't get it. Is fed different then state felonies? Every time iv had state charges once u do the PSI they add up all your points right there and tell u what ur min and max is. And I THOUGHT the judge HAD to stay within guidelines to protect them from having to much power etc.

Is it different with a fed case maybe?

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by Chucky » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:36 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:09 pm Ridiculous that ON A PLEA he’s sentenced to DOUBLE the recommended guidelines.

A plea he should’ve got around the recommended, otherwise what’s the point.
That's the risk you take, he aint the first guy to get nailed in a plea. Giallanzo is no boy scout either, this guy and his crew were really throwing their weight around up there.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:09 pm

Ridiculous that ON A PLEA he’s sentenced to DOUBLE the recommended guidelines.

A plea he should’ve got around the recommended, otherwise what’s the point.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:07 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:53 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:13 am 14 years is ridiculous for loaning 5 people money.
The indictment also included attempted murder and assault charges.
He also pled out and agreed to forefit his house and make a huge restitution.

He’d likely have got no worse sentence and financial penalties had he gone to trial.

Should’ve rolled the dice.

Re: Giallanzo taking a plea

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:03 pm

Plus he had a long criminal record. He got off light all things considered.


Pogo

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