by B. » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:48 pm
AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:31 pm
Also it dosen't say when Rizzo was a captain. Maybe that it was before Rava and Anastasia took Rizzo down when he become boss or something like that.
I don't believe that Rizzo became a captain in 1957 like the succession chart on here says. Rizzo was an elderly Palermitani and longtime influence in Brooklyn before that. I can't remember if JD covered it in his post that's now deleted, but Rava had associated with Rizzo early on, before Rava was himself a family leader, and from my limited understanding, Rava seems to have been given his own crew, taken over another group, or otherwise split off from Rizzo during Anastasia's run as boss. What I'd be interested in knowing is how Rava was tied to Anastasia exactly. They were both of mainland heritage but I haven't gotten the impression that Rava came up under Anastasia. I'd have to recheck, but I remember finding more than one tie between Rava and Genovese members back when Rava was an associate. Remember that John Robilotto, who was another one of Anastasia's top loyalists involved in the conflict after Anastasia's murder, was originally a Genovese associate. Would be interesting if Rava had originally been with the Genovese at one point, too.
Side note, but there was some interesting "trading" of associates going on with Anastasia. On a vague recording, Scoops Licata of Philly claimed that Tony Caponigro and Dominick Luciano (both Calabrians) were originally with Anastasia before the Philly family. Caponigro seems to have at least run in the same circles as Anastasia in NJ, where he lived. Licata was originally an associate on record with Caponigro so he has some weight (literally and figuratively). Anastasia is a fascinating guy beyond all of the "Mad Hatter" and "Murder Inc" hype.
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Also it dosen't say when Rizzo was a captain. Maybe that it was before Rava and Anastasia took Rizzo down when he become boss or something like that.
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I don't believe that Rizzo became a captain in 1957 like the succession chart on here says. Rizzo was an elderly Palermitani and longtime influence in Brooklyn before that. I can't remember if JD covered it in his post that's now deleted, but Rava had associated with Rizzo early on, before Rava was himself a family leader, and from my limited understanding, Rava seems to have been given his own crew, taken over another group, or otherwise split off from Rizzo during Anastasia's run as boss. What I'd be interested in knowing is how Rava was tied to Anastasia exactly. They were both of mainland heritage but I haven't gotten the impression that Rava came up under Anastasia. I'd have to recheck, but I remember finding more than one tie between Rava and Genovese members back when Rava was an associate. Remember that John Robilotto, who was another one of Anastasia's top loyalists involved in the conflict after Anastasia's murder, was originally a Genovese associate. Would be interesting if Rava had originally been with the Genovese at one point, too.
Side note, but there was some interesting "trading" of associates going on with Anastasia. On a vague recording, Scoops Licata of Philly claimed that Tony Caponigro and Dominick Luciano (both Calabrians) were originally with Anastasia before the Philly family. Caponigro seems to have at least run in the same circles as Anastasia in NJ, where he lived. Licata was originally an associate on record with Caponigro so he has some weight (literally and figuratively). Anastasia is a fascinating guy beyond all of the "Mad Hatter" and "Murder Inc" hype.