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by Raven » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:19 am
by HairyKnuckles » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:05 am
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:06 pm This is all interesting. Here's a list of (not complete) of the non-Sicilian Gambinos 1930-1950. I can do the research (I'd rather not), does anyone know where any of these names were based? For instance the Corbi's were in Balt and the Anastasio's in BK. Parisi-Gioacchino - Pittston, PA Rucci-Louis LiConti-Carmelo Florino-Joseph Crisalli-Vincent Romeo-Anthony Anastasio-Umberto - BK Anastasio-Anthony Snr. - BK Anastasio-Guiseppe - BK Giustra-John - BK LePore-Vincent Cantalupo-Emillio* Gargano-Mario Luciano-Frank Corbi-Frank - BM, MD Corbi-Pasquale MD, MD D'Argenio-Edward Zappi-Ettore Eppolito-Luigi* Belfiore-Giuseppe
by AlexfromSouth » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:32 am
B. wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:48 pm AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:31 pm Also it dosen't say when Rizzo was a captain. Maybe that it was before Rava and Anastasia took Rizzo down when he become boss or something like that. I don't believe that Rizzo became a captain in 1957 like the succession chart on here says. Rizzo was an elderly Palermitani and longtime influence in Brooklyn before that. I can't remember if JD covered it in his post that's now deleted, but Rava had associated with Rizzo early on, before Rava was himself a family leader, and from my limited understanding, Rava seems to have been given his own crew, taken over another group, or otherwise split off from Rizzo during Anastasia's run as boss. What I'd be interested in knowing is how Rava was tied to Anastasia exactly. They were both of mainland heritage but I haven't gotten the impression that Rava came up under Anastasia. I'd have to recheck, but I remember finding more than one tie between Rava and Genovese members back when Rava was an associate. Remember that John Robilotto, who was another one of Anastasia's top loyalists involved in the conflict after Anastasia's murder, was originally a Genovese associate. Would be interesting if Rava had originally been with the Genovese at one point, too. Side note, but there was some interesting "trading" of associates going on with Anastasia. On a vague recording, Scoops Licata of Philly claimed that Tony Caponigro and Dominick Luciano (both Calabrians) were originally with Anastasia before the Philly family. Caponigro seems to have at least run in the same circles as Anastasia in NJ, where he lived. Licata was originally an associate on record with Caponigro so he has some weight (literally and figuratively). Anastasia is a fascinating guy beyond all of the "Mad Hatter" and "Murder Inc" hype.
AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:31 pm Also it dosen't say when Rizzo was a captain. Maybe that it was before Rava and Anastasia took Rizzo down when he become boss or something like that.
by Angelo Santino » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:06 pm
by B. » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:48 pm
by AlexfromSouth » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:37 am
by Angelo Santino » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:29 am
AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:26 pm Chris Christie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:56 am https://www.archives.gov/files/research ... 576618.pdf Very much implies that Rizzo is still alive and Rava is presumed dead (1963). Doesn't directly say Rizzo and Rava share a crew lineage, only that they were close, so it could go either way. Anthony Rizzo was Palermitan', not saying it's impossible but given that this crew has been traditionally Napolitan in Mulberry, I would think it would have been someone from Little Italy, Sunset, West Side or Tomkinsville in S.I. But I've been wrong before and this has never been an exact science. I don't know, Jimmy brown Failla, Toddo Aurello, Petey pumps Ferrara, Rizzo they were all sicilians and a lot more probably.. DeCicco wasn't sicilian he was in that crew also..from Bath beach
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:56 am https://www.archives.gov/files/research ... 576618.pdf Very much implies that Rizzo is still alive and Rava is presumed dead (1963). Doesn't directly say Rizzo and Rava share a crew lineage, only that they were close, so it could go either way. Anthony Rizzo was Palermitan', not saying it's impossible but given that this crew has been traditionally Napolitan in Mulberry, I would think it would have been someone from Little Italy, Sunset, West Side or Tomkinsville in S.I. But I've been wrong before and this has never been an exact science.
by AlexfromSouth » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:31 pm
by AlexfromSouth » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:26 pm
by moneyman » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:27 pm
by Angelo Santino » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:56 am
by AlexfromSouth » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:55 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:15 pm Chris Christie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:40 am How far back can we trace the Dellacroce Crew back? I presume the 1960's with Armand Rava with pre-1950's being an open question? But correct me but it seems most of them came from Mulberry St with a few stragglers in Staten Island and Brooklyn. Rava is the earliest known captain of the crew. Considering how close he was to Anastasia, I wouldn´t be surprised if Rava was given a crew that was created for him. Possibly his crew was a merger of two consisting crews (one based in Manhattan and the other in Brooklyn).
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:40 am How far back can we trace the Dellacroce Crew back? I presume the 1960's with Armand Rava with pre-1950's being an open question? But correct me but it seems most of them came from Mulberry St with a few stragglers in Staten Island and Brooklyn.
by Angelo Santino » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:52 pm
by HairyKnuckles » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:15 pm
by Angelo Santino » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:40 am
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