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Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by Philly d » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:30 pm

Fughedaboutit wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:27 pm
dack2001 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:03 pm I get what you're saying Chucky but disagree on the timing. The plate # was the call, came back registered to Nicodemo, cops responded to his home. The mailman didn't follow them away from the scene. Without the f----- plates the cops aren't at Nicodemos doorstep 30 seconds after he got home its just a call about a dark suv involved in a shooting. If anything, they should have pulled some plates, would have given them a chance to dump the gun, clothes and take a shower. People have been pulling plates to commit crimes since plates were invented.
Yeah I am not sure how he doesn't get our point of the plates leading straight to Nicodemo is part of the reason they had no time to do anything, if the mailman had other information to report such as a different plate or vehicle they likely would not have been at Nicodemos door in 5 minutes lol

He made a big time mistake...I agree more with the theory of he felt invincible so thought he could get away with anything...but the other hits seemed more thought out
Yeah, steal a car and then dumb it. That way they can't even identify your car.

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by Fughedaboutit » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:27 pm

dack2001 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:03 pm I get what you're saying Chucky but disagree on the timing. The plate # was the call, came back registered to Nicodemo, cops responded to his home. The mailman didn't follow them away from the scene. Without the f----- plates the cops aren't at Nicodemos doorstep 30 seconds after he got home its just a call about a dark suv involved in a shooting. If anything, they should have pulled some plates, would have given them a chance to dump the gun, clothes and take a shower. People have been pulling plates to commit crimes since plates were invented.
Yeah I am not sure how he doesn't get our point of the plates leading straight to Nicodemo is part of the reason they had no time to do anything, if the mailman had other information to report such as a different plate or vehicle they likely would not have been at Nicodemos door in 5 minutes lol

He made a big time mistake...I agree more with the theory of he felt invincible so thought he could get away with anything...but the other hits seemed more thought out

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by Philly d » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:32 pm

dack2001 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:03 pm I get what you're saying Chucky but disagree on the timing. The plate # was the call, came back registered to Nicodemo, cops responded to his home. The mailman didn't follow them away from the scene. Without the f----- plates the cops aren't at Nicodemos doorstep 30 seconds after he got home its just a call about a dark suv involved in a shooting. If anything, they should have pulled some plates, would have given them a chance to dump the gun, clothes and take a shower. People have been pulling plates to commit crimes since plates were invented.
I don't know all the specifics, but it sounds like a poorly planned or executed or both hit. You don't get caught minutes after otherwise.

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by dack2001 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:03 pm

I get what you're saying Chucky but disagree on the timing. The plate # was the call, came back registered to Nicodemo, cops responded to his home. The mailman didn't follow them away from the scene. Without the f----- plates the cops aren't at Nicodemos doorstep 30 seconds after he got home its just a call about a dark suv involved in a shooting. If anything, they should have pulled some plates, would have given them a chance to dump the gun, clothes and take a shower. People have been pulling plates to commit crimes since plates were invented.

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by Chucky » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:36 pm

dack2001 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:55 am Even different plates sends police to a different location, gives enough time to dispose of clothes and gun.
They were caught so fast I doubt they would have had time to dump the car and everything else. The mailman was on the phone with dispatch before Grande was back in the car, the cameras had footage of Grande (masked obviously) on foot after bailing from Nicodemo's car. My point is, even had they been using a stolen car, with the call coming in so fast the liklihood is Nicodemo would have been caught fleeing it. The mailman blending in to the surrounding was something they clearly did not account for.

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by NJShore4Life » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:04 am

Canalichio has a 1997 drug bust and a 2007 Federal drug bust. Here is a brew news clip of when he plead guilty in 2007:

https://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_u ... EGION.html

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by Stroccos » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:40 am

NJShore4Life wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:32 am Canalichio was pumping a lot of coke into the streets too as well. He actually was caught selling coke right in the heart of South Philly. It was what he was jammed up and already in Federal prison for when the 2011 indictment went down. If you guys think there’s actually honor and a strict no drugs code, I’ve got a bridge to sell u with unicorns on the other end of it.
He approved Boston bob to do coke reals with previte imagine if that was real and not a set up , merlino going to turn down the cash flow LOL

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by NJShore4Life » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:32 am

Canalichio was pumping a lot of coke into the streets too as well. He actually was caught selling coke right in the heart of South Philly. It was what he was jammed up and already in Federal prison for when the 2011 indictment went down. If you guys think there’s actually honor and a strict no drugs code, I’ve got a bridge to sell u with unicorns on the other end of it.

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by NJShore4Life » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:28 am

I don’t think Ligambi gave a shit for one single second where the money in the fat envelopes Nicodemo was handing to him came from. Ligambi was all about “Make Money, Not Headlines” (George Anastasia Voice) LOL.

Joey Merlino was pumping a ton of coke onto the streets in the 1990s as well. Philly LCN doesn’t seem to care where the money comes from, u people have seen way too many movies....

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by dack2001 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:55 am

Even different plates sends police to a different location, gives enough time to dispose of clothes and gun.

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by dack2001 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:53 am

Yeah, I have to agree. Using a car and plates that can't be traced back to the participants has been a criminal standard since automobile licensing was invented, I don't care if you're shooting someone or robbing a 7-11. They got complacent or a little sloppy here, for whatever reason. Cost him 25 years.

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by Fughedaboutit » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:41 am

Chucky wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:59 pm I think you're right about that. Nicodemo also avoided getting pinched with Ligambi and all those guys in 2011, and everybody assumed he would go down with them once the indictment dropped.

Also hard for me to believe that Nicodemo "planned it poorly" given that it was far from his first rodeo. I can't see a guy like him or Dom blowing DiPietro away in broad daylight unless they were absolutely sure.
We will agree to disagree. Using a stolen car or a different vehicle than his own would have made it harder to run his plates and pull up straight to his house within a few minutes. Even using a different plate would have made it more difficult. Then having the gun under the seat? Seems pretty poor to me.

Nicodemo was arrested minutes later after a witness told police he saw a masked gunman jump into a waiting Honda Pilot which sped from the scene. A license tag led police to Nicodemo's door in the 3200 block of South 17th Street, a five-minute drive from the murder scene.

He was taken into custody that day and after obtaining a search warrant police found a .357 Smith&Wesson automatic under the driver's seat of the Honda which was parked behind his house. Assistant District Attorney Brian Zarallo said ballistics proved that the gun was the murder weapon.

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by Chucky » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:06 am

slimshady_007 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:44 am
NJShore4Life wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:39 am Yes I guarantee Nicodemo got this hit approved and approval to use Dom for it as well. Nicodemo wouldn’t do something like this and use Grande without Admin approval, trust me. He probably got the approval to do it and do it quick because Gino was giving up information on Gongs hit.

At this point I believe Nicodemo was an Acting Capo as well with tons of money coming in from Coke, Real Estate,Shylock, sports betting (Borgata Bust was his book), and Card Games. Always heard he was a major earner and one of the most well respected younger guys at the time along with Canalichio.
Did the admin have no problem with him sellin coke?
I don't think they gave a shit, and by that point Nicodemo was one of the top guys regardless of rank. He was throwing his weight around all over the area and the guys at the top were happy with the money he was bringing them.

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by slimshady_007 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:44 am

NJShore4Life wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:39 am Yes I guarantee Nicodemo got this hit approved and approval to use Dom for it as well. Nicodemo wouldn’t do something like this and use Grande without Admin approval, trust me. He probably got the approval to do it and do it quick because Gino was giving up information on Gongs hit.

At this point I believe Nicodemo was an Acting Capo as well with tons of money coming in from Coke, Real Estate,Shylock, sports betting (Borgata Bust was his book), and Card Games. Always heard he was a major earner and one of the most well respected younger guys at the time along with Canalichio.
Did the admin have no problem with him sellin coke?

Re: Scores Rat Refuses Witness Protection

by NJShore4Life » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:39 am

Yes I guarantee Nicodemo got this hit approved and approval to use Dom for it as well. Nicodemo wouldn’t do something like this and use Grande without Admin approval, trust me. He probably got the approval to do it and do it quick because Gino was giving up information on Gongs hit.

At this point I believe Nicodemo was an Acting Capo as well with tons of money coming in from Coke, Real Estate,Shylock, sports betting (Borgata Bust was his book), and Card Games. Always heard he was a major earner and one of the most well respected younger guys at the time along with Canalichio.

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