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Re: Genovese Family Administration

by davidf1989 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:42 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue May 15, 2018 10:54 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue May 15, 2018 10:45 am Bologna was never made right?

Correct. He was an Associate.


Pogo
According to the article from Stephanie Barry he didn't want to be made into the Mafia and refused the overtures.

https://www.masslive.com/news/2017/05/j ... ncy_2.html

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Philly d » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:40 pm

I am looking on my phone so maybe I can’t see properl, but What about Esposito?

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by SILENT PARTNERZ » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:56 am

Clark wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:49 am
Cheech wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:36 am
Wiseguy wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:17 am
Cheech wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:38 am found this in my files, thought it was relevant
Great chart of the Gigantes and extended family. Wonder why they don't have Esposito on there?
I wondered the same thing
Don't quote me on it, but I believe this particular chart was prepared by The Waterfront Commission a few years ago to show his family ties to the waterfront. It is possible that Esposito is not on there because there was no link to the ILA (or at least not an identified one). Ralph Jr, the Fyfe's etc. all have/had some very cushy jobs.
Clark is correct. ILA chart showing sustained influence over
the NJ docks - after the death of the Chin.

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Clark » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:49 am

Cheech wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:36 am
Wiseguy wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:17 am
Cheech wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:38 am found this in my files, thought it was relevant
Great chart of the Gigantes and extended family. Wonder why they don't have Esposito on there?
I wondered the same thing
Don't quote me on it, but I believe this particular chart was prepared by The Waterfront Commission a few years ago to show his family ties to the waterfront. It is possible that Esposito is not on there because there was no link to the ILA (or at least not an identified one). Ralph Jr, the Fyfe's etc. all have/had some very cushy jobs.

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Cheech » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:36 am

Wiseguy wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:17 am
Cheech wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:38 am found this in my files, thought it was relevant
Great chart of the Gigantes and extended family. Wonder why they don't have Esposito on there?
I wondered the same thing

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Wiseguy » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:17 am

Cheech wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:38 am found this in my files, thought it was relevant
Great chart of the Gigantes and extended family. Wonder why they don't have Esposito on there?

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Cheech » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:38 am

found this in my files, thought it was relevant

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Snakes » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:05 am

HairyKnuckles wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:48 pm
Villain wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:09 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 11:15 am I don't know for sure but it does ring a bell with me. I can t say if i read it on one of these forums (somebody posting it) or if I read it in a FBI file.
I accidentally stumbled upon it again and I remembered on our convo regarding Ricca and Mario Gigante... https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0chauffeur
Good find! I know that I have seen it before but I did not know where. I have more than a dozen of FBI files so it´s very hard to go back and find some particular info. I wish I had a search function I could use. So, it turns out they were in laws!
Different Mario Gigante.

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Frank » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:22 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:48 am To possibly confuse things even more the Genovese referred to their ruling pannel as the administration. :lol:


Pogo
No actually you are not confusing anything. It's keeping it real. It's not surprising that new names became panel members, since most of the panel got indicted and sentenced to prison the year before. Maybe this information, if found reliable, is a start.

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Pogo The Clown » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:48 am

To possibly confuse things even more the Genovese referred to their ruling pannel as the administration. :lol:


Pogo

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Charlie » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:47 am

Wiseguy wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:02 pm
Frank wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:45 pmYes so do you think Fiumara was a member of the ruling panel that was either misidentified as 3 or added members as they were released or off of supervised release. I ask because from what I remember back the didn't those 2 different reports of a 3 man ruling panel and the rotating panel came out only months apart.
The first one was a June 2009 New York Daily News article identifies that mentioned Benny Mangano, Ernie Muscarella, Barney Bellomo, and Larry Dentico being on a "rotating panel" of recently released senior members running the family. They didnt say they were all then on the panel or had been at the same time, necessarily.

The second one was a September 2009 New York Times article that said Tino Fiumara was on a "three man panel" running the family. I can only assume the rotating had continued, as it had over the past 20+ years, and Fiumara became a part of it at some point. Other than identifying guys who have been on the ruling panel, we never saw a specific number that made up the panel before the article about Fiumara. But that doesn't mean 3 was always the number.

To confuse things a little bit more, let me add that in 2006 the FBI carried Rudolph Santobello as "a member of the administration" ...and since they didn't say "member of a rotating panel" or something to that effect it could indicate he was underboss or consigliere (or acting)...

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Villain » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:17 pm

HairyKnuckles wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:48 pm
Villain wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:09 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 11:15 am I don't know for sure but it does ring a bell with me. I can t say if i read it on one of these forums (somebody posting it) or if I read it in a FBI file.
I accidentally stumbled upon it again and I remembered on our convo regarding Ricca and Mario Gigante... https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0chauffeur
Good find! I know that I have seen it before but I did not know where. I have more than a dozen of FBI files so it´s very hard to go back and find some particular info. I wish I had a search function I could use. So, it turns out they were in laws!
Yup, it seems they were

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by HairyKnuckles » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:48 pm

Villain wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:09 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 11:15 am I don't know for sure but it does ring a bell with me. I can t say if i read it on one of these forums (somebody posting it) or if I read it in a FBI file.
I accidentally stumbled upon it again and I remembered on our convo regarding Ricca and Mario Gigante... https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0chauffeur
Good find! I know that I have seen it before but I did not know where. I have more than a dozen of FBI files so it´s very hard to go back and find some particular info. I wish I had a search function I could use. So, it turns out they were in laws!

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by Villain » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:09 pm

HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 11:15 am I don't know for sure but it does ring a bell with me. I can t say if i read it on one of these forums (somebody posting it) or if I read it in a FBI file.
I accidentally stumbled upon it again and I remembered on our convo regarding Ricca and Mario Gigante... https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0chauffeur

Re: Genovese Family Administration

by SILENT PARTNERZ » Wed May 16, 2018 1:38 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 1:25 pm Pasquale
Scop DeLuca. 10/4

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