THE BLACK HAND FORUM

jimmyb wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:49 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:37 pm Thanks for posting, jimmyb. I was familiar with Project Reckoning but had never seen that before.

Of course, no problem.

Not trying to turn this thread into cartel discussion, but since we're also talking about OC groups and diversification of rackets, here's a new book about Los Zetas that apparently documents their involvement in other rackets including music piracy. I haven't read the book, but seems interesting: https://www.amazon.com/Los-Zetas-Inc-Cr ... =Los+Zetas

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:37 pm Thanks for posting, jimmyb. I was familiar with Project Reckoning but had never seen that before.

jimmyb wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:50 pm http://www.coha.org/the-relationship-be ... omparison/

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:27 am

Chris Christie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:27 amAs time has gone on, I've become less and less impressed with the structure, it's really nothing special and unless there's a dispute, really doesn't impact these guy's lives all that much. 90% of organized crime is organized crime. There were other groups that were 3x as structured with intricate layers - and I'm sorry but I cannot elaborate - that only wielded 1/3 of the power of the Sicilian mafia. You get 10-20 guys together you can create your own mafia family but without the culture, connections and proper criminal biosphere it'd be as successful as Detroit's Black Mafia which dried up after a federal charge and no one's continued it, which begs the question: How and why has the Italian Mafia survived when every other one of their ethnic contemporaries are gone? It doesn't have to do with the ranks and structure, at least not entirely.

While I tend to agree with the article below, which attributes much of the longevity and success of the Italian mob to its structure, I do agree there are other factors. It's criminal tradition is a big part of it, as you said. Another factor is it's diversification.

Structure Keeps Mafia Atop Crime Heap
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424 ... 2318489246

Chris Christie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:18 pm "Use this opportunity to give praise Italian (style)." And by that he means envelopes stuffed with 'scarole.

It's Latin not Eye-tal.

aleksandrored wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:14 pm I was reading this article from you:

http://informer-journal.blogspot.com.br ... ky+luciano

I'm loving it, it's very good and very informative, besides the fact that it will help me a lot at the time of reading The Last Testament.

Chris Christie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:51 am Dei grazie... in Italorum... in volarte.

Confederate wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:35 pm Why thank you Johnny Scootch. I really was only half serious because I like to bust Antiliar's balls sometimes because he is so serious.

Confederate wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:42 am Every writer I ever read must be lazy and only repeat what some other writer has stated because they all say that Maranzano created the structure of the American Mafia after his Idol Julius Caeser and the Roman Empire. If The exact structure ALREADY existed in the 1870's In Sicily with all the small Mafia Clans, then why would Maranzano have a big meeting in New York after the Mafia War was over to explain the structure to everyone? Wouldn't everyone already know it? if You have documents from 1870 that show that the exact structure Maranzano talked about already was in place 60 years before he mentioned it, then could you please post them? That would be an interesting thing to read.