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Are the Gambino Sciortinos from Favara? There were several different families and I want to avoid jumping to conclusions but the ones I stumbled upon are on Mott and Bleecker and fit the profile.

I don't know where to post this, not exactly mafia focused but related. Re. the Agrigento faction of people from Bisacquina (prov of Palermo but on its southern border more closer to Agrigento than to Palermo, would fall in the vicinity of Corleone etc.) I'm seeing Riccobonos and Romanos from there, not Palermo, going to Birmingham, AL. I can't confirm they were members or even involved but given that Joe N. Gallo was Bisaquinesi by way of Alabama just thought I'd point that out. The Riccobonos of the Gambinos were Palermitan on the opposite side of the island. But then I got a Pirrone of Giuliana (next town over from Bisacquina) who appears linked with both the Gambino Riccobonos of East Village (Palermitans) in NYC and the Crivello's of Malaspina Palermo (historic mafia family) as well as a Sammarco in Brooklyn (the Sammarco's and Crivello's are related in Palermo and some were members).

This "Sciaccatanni" faction, when you crack it open, probably was the entire southern cost of Sicily along the Agrigento province, Siacca down to Licata with the inland towns of Favara and Calamonaci and half a dozen or so more. This faction goes back to the Gambinos since (at least) the 1900's up and down the East Side with concentrations around E39th and Little Italy. But, the Gambinos didn't get everyone, guys like Cascio Ferro, Cina and another guy who was connected with the Tampa family before coming to NYC in the mid 1900's decade all appear to have been with the Corleonesi. Perhaps they flocked to the Morellos when he was BOB and then later on D'Aquila when he was BOB. But, *scratching my head, these guys had the numbers to warrant a 5th family pre 1921 of Sciaccatani. Sometimes we don't get answers to the questions we seek.

Was there ever some tension or anymosity between the Palermitans and the agrigenteses, some kind of strife? I'm asking because none of the agrigentese guys got all the way to the admin spots (other than Gravano, but that's another thing I guess)
What do you guys think did Carlo and Paul look down on certain sicilian heritage members wich were not from the Palermo area? Is there a posibility for something like that? Or did it only matter to them thsy you were from Sicilia, period. Thanks

Pretty amazing that the Palermitans and Agrigentese all fell under one umbrella in NYC. Seems like AG had enough to constitute it's own separate family.

hello B...different franco's then..also joe arcuri's godfather was santo sr. joe was born in tampa.

The other crew I was referring to was the Gaetano Trupia crew. Not sure what became of it after he died in 1941, but by that time Trupia had moved from Manhattan to Queens. Peter Stincone and a couple of his soldiers were from the same village as Trupia and the Stincones were in Queens so his crew could trace back to this one. Stincone's mother was a Giardina and his wife a Cacciatore, both names of Gambino soldiers associated with Stincone, curious if he's also related to the Tampa members.

The Parlapiano and the Trupia crews could trace back to the Accursio Dimino and/or Vincenzo LoCicero crews. Both powerful D'Aquila captains from Agrigento.

No clue if the Arcuri crew split off from one of the above or what.. The Joseph Franco who was an early captain was a Calabrian I believe, so I don't think there would be a connection to the other Francos and Arcuris.

Their immigration record shows the Arcuris coming from Alessandria della Rocca. They lived in Tampa for a while and had close ties to members of the Tampa family from the same area.

arcuri,franco..

bronx wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:05 am they were from Naro, Cammastra

who?

they were from Naro, Cammastra

arcuri also

which is the other Agrigento crew? The first being Parlapiano/Franco/Lombardozzi crew of course.

Antiliar wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:25 am I looked at the 1940 census and did a search of those named Vito and were born in Italy. Using those parameters, there weren't any who lived exactly in the Bensonhurst neighborhood. One lived close, though. Vito DiFilippi, born around 1889, lived at 113 Bay 25th Street. He wasn't from Agrigento, but from Castellammare. So if he was made, he likely would have been a Bonanno. I looked through the World War II draft registration cards using the same criteria and didn't see anyone in Bensonhurst from Agrigento named Vito born in Italy. So either the person is off the radar or moved later (since Sammy Gravano was born in 1945, the discussion with his father about Suvito was probably when he was around 10, or c1955.

Good point about possibly moving later on. The Agrigento Gambino crews were mostly centered in Manhattan, so he may have lived there before Bensonhurst like many other Sicilians who settled in Brooklyn after living on the Lower East Side. Nino Gaggi's family was from Palermo and went from LES>Brooklyn. In Montiglio's questionable book he claims Nino Gaggi had been close to Frank Scalise (Scalici) -- I found a record that Nino Gaggi's paternal grandmother was a Scalici. I don't remember Montiglio mentioning a relation but this could explain the connection.

edit: Just checked and Murder Machine does say that Angelo Gaggi was a cousin of Scalise, so this doesn't seem to be news. We know it was through Angelo's mother now at least.

I looked at the 1940 census and did a search of those named Vito and were born in Italy. Using those parameters, there weren't any who lived exactly in the Bensonhurst neighborhood. One lived close, though. Vito DiFilippi, born around 1889, lived at 113 Bay 25th Street. He wasn't from Agrigento, but from Castellammare. So if he was made, he likely would have been a Bonanno. I looked through the World War II draft registration cards using the same criteria and didn't see anyone in Bensonhurst from Agrigento named Vito born in Italy. So either the person is off the radar or moved later (since Sammy Gravano was born in 1945, the discussion with his father about Suvito was probably when he was around 10, or c1955.

Great stuff B