THE BLACK HAND FORUM

B. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:18 pm

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:08 pm

B. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:52 pm Interesting that Lovaglio may have had 16 soldiers, though given his reputation, I don't know that we can take it to the bank. It would point to him being connected to the Graziano crew given the location and size of the crew.

I agree. It looks like John Zancocchio (Graziano's ex-son-in-law, business partner, and acting capo in the 90s and early 2000s), took over Lovaglio's crew. All through 2015, Zancocchio was described in the Giallanzo Probation Memo as an acting capo, but sometime between Sept. 2015 and Dec. 2015, Zancocchio was promoted to official capo.
In Nov. 2015, Lovaglio had that drunken fight with Fred Forte in a Staten Island sushi place (a scene straight out of Donnie Brasco ), and according to Jerry Capeci, Joe Cammarano Jr. shelved and demoted Lovaglio as a result. So all the signs point towards Zancocchio taking over Lovaglio's crew.
Lovaglio DID show up at the Dec. 2015 Bonanno family Christmas party, however, and was described as an "official capo" alongside John Zancocchio. But Capeci consistently reported that Lovaglio was shelved and lost a lot of respect due to the sushi incident, and other evidence seems to back that up.

My money is on Zancocchio taking over Lovaglio's crew, and then being promoted to consigliere, at which point George Tropiano became the "acting capo" of Zancocchio's old crew.

It says Lovaglio became a captain in 2011, which was when Graziano went back to prison I believe. He may have been acting for Graziano then took over that crew or a part of it, with Zancocchio serving as acting captain then captain after that.

Hopefully Lovaglio can supply some reliable info that leaks out our way eventually.

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:55 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:32 pm
Anyone know if Tommy Valente is related to Fat Sammy Valente?

Fat Sammy's surname is Valenti.

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:08 pm

B. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:52 pm

Camo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:05 am The way this was worded i thought it was saying Merlino was a Genovese Capo at first:

"But Jacobs questioned Inzerillo's own expertise — and the prowess of the FBI — by noting that despite being assigned since 1997 to the FBI's squad that investigates the crime family dubbed the Ivy League of Organized Crime, he wrote in a 2013 affidavit that his client, the longtime Philadelphia mob boss, was a Genovese family capo when Rubeo first met Skinny Joey."

Thanks for posting Halibritain.

Interesting that Lovaglio may have had 16 soldiers, though given his reputation, I don't know that we can take it to the bank. It would point to him being connected to the Graziano crew given the location and size of the crew.

I agree. It looks like John Zancocchio (Graziano's ex-son-in-law, business partner, and acting capo in the 90s and early 2000s), took over Lovaglio's crew. All through 2015, Zancocchio was described in the Giallanzo Probation Memo as an acting capo, but sometime between Sept. 2015 and Dec. 2015, Zancocchio was promoted to official capo.
In Nov. 2015, Lovaglio had that drunken fight with Fred Forte in a Staten Island sushi place (a scene straight out of Donnie Brasco ), and according to Jerry Capeci, Joe Cammarano Jr. shelved and demoted Lovaglio as a result. So all the signs point towards Zancocchio taking over Lovaglio's crew.
Lovaglio DID show up at the Dec. 2015 Bonanno family Christmas party, however, and was described as an "official capo" alongside John Zancocchio. But Capeci consistently reported that Lovaglio was shelved and lost a lot of respect due to the sushi incident, and other evidence seems to back that up.

My money is on Zancocchio taking over Lovaglio's crew, and then being promoted to consigliere, at which point George Tropiano became the "acting capo" of Zancocchio's old crew.

B. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:52 pm

Camo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:05 am The way this was worded i thought it was saying Merlino was a Genovese Capo at first:

"But Jacobs questioned Inzerillo's own expertise — and the prowess of the FBI — by noting that despite being assigned since 1997 to the FBI's squad that investigates the crime family dubbed the Ivy League of Organized Crime, he wrote in a 2013 affidavit that his client, the longtime Philadelphia mob boss, was a Genovese family capo when Rubeo first met Skinny Joey."

Thanks for posting Halibritain.

Interesting that Lovaglio may have had 16 soldiers, though given his reputation, I don't know that we can take it to the bank. It would point to him being connected to the Graziano crew given the location and size of the crew.

Rocco wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:45 pm Thanks for the pics. The Tommy Valente I was thinking of was in his 50s around the same age as Merlino and lives in Coral Springs west of Pompano. But this guy looks like he is in his early 30s... ?

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:32 pm
Anyone know if Tommy Valente is related to Fat Sammy Valente?

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:10 am

Camo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:05 am The way this was worded i thought it was saying Merlino was a Genovese Capo at first:

"But Jacobs questioned Inzerillo's own expertise — and the prowess of the FBI — by noting that despite being assigned since 1997 to the FBI's squad that investigates the crime family dubbed the Ivy League of Organized Crime, he wrote in a 2013 affidavit that his client, the longtime Philadelphia mob boss, was a Genovese family capo when Rubeo first met Skinny Joey."

It is. Which is beyond astonishing considering not only who Merlino is, but that Inzerillo was on the Westside squad for SIXTEEN years.

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:37 pm Inzerillo goes back pre 9/11 on the Westside squad specifically.

So no terrorism excuses there.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:18 pm

Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:11 pm

BobbyPazzo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:07 pm

Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:07 pm this guys gonna skate. amazing

Really is cuz. The gov shit the bed big time. I'm baffled at the shit I'm reading about Rubeo and the wedgie Jacobs is giving him.

shows you how incompetent this fbi are. if they even had a clue they could get him. the shit their saying about rubeo is incredible. hes a bigger criminal/scumbag than joey. and the east coast lcn is so made up its comical. funny even jerry ripping fbi/prosecution

Or that one agent anyway. Makes you wonder if, with all the focus on terrorism and transnational organized crime, they're not putting their best and brightest on LCN investigations.

Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:11 pm

BobbyPazzo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:07 pm

Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:07 pm this guys gonna skate. amazing

Really is cuz. The gov shit the bed big time. I'm baffled at the shit I'm reading about Rubeo and the wedgie Jacobs is giving him.

shows you how incompetent this fbi are. if they even had a clue they could get him. the shit their saying about rubeo is incredible. hes a bigger criminal/scumbag than joey. and the east coast lcn is so made up its comical. funny even jerry ripping fbi/prosecution

Camo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:05 am The way this was worded i thought it was saying Merlino was a Genovese Capo at first:

"But Jacobs questioned Inzerillo's own expertise — and the prowess of the FBI — by noting that despite being assigned since 1997 to the FBI's squad that investigates the crime family dubbed the Ivy League of Organized Crime, he wrote in a 2013 affidavit that his client, the longtime Philadelphia mob boss, was a Genovese family capo when Rubeo first met Skinny Joey."

Thanks for posting Halibritain.