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Re: Barney Miranda

by JIGGS » Fri May 04, 2018 3:31 pm

B. wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:45 pm - The structure of the organization is listed as follows:
Boss - Frank Tieri
Former boss - Gerardo Catena (incarcerated)
Underboss - Eli Zeccardi
Consigliere - John Ardito
Captains:
Vincent Alo
Ruggiero Boiardo
Peter DeFeo
Pasquale Eboli
Gus Frasca
Vincenzo Generoso (retired)
Thomas Greco
Harry Lanza
Joseph Lapi
Peter LaPlaca
Philip Lombardo
(There are two additional redacted names; these likely correspond to other info in the same report that says two individuals were recently promoted to captain. Note that they were not made captains of the Carillo/DeCarlo crews.)
Hey fellas, new member here.

I apologize before anything else because I don't have any legitimized U.S. source or fed task force citations. Take it for what it is. Another asshole heard from. For what its worth I would add these guys to the list during the Disco era. The worst era in music history.

#John Dee Gillio
#"Pepe" Sabato
#Vinny Napoli (Acting)
#Joe Shippani/Shipanni, whatever (sp!?)
#"Stricchi" Gatto (the old man, not the son)

By '74 Harry Lanza was singing opera in the underground circuit. Maybe I'm wrong but 'the way I have it' :roll: Lanza was always a soldier under Mickey Lascari. From there it splits in two directions all leading to the same place. One for Rosario Mogavero and one for Louie Gaccione. Saro sits down and Tommy the Monster [Contaldo] takes over. Lou keeps going into the Wild West 1980s. The Reagan period. [Not the exorcist]

If I recall correctly, Tony "Bucola" Ferro was running 116 THROUGHOUT the flower power and Disco shit period. Then again who the hell knows with the West Side? Dan deManno could have been the counselor and nobody would have been the wizer. But i doubt it.

I can not say for sure but somewhere out there "Dom the Sailor" was in the picture. Not Patsy. As what? Who knows? Maybe its in one of them reports typed up by the feds??? I also believe [think?] Dimino Jr. MAYBE, MAYBE was already "acting" or was "acting" like it.

Beautiful forum fellas. My name is JIGGS.

Re: Barney Miranda

by nash143 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:24 pm

Interesting that surveillance photos were being taken as early as 1957. Can't think of seeing any others as early as this.

Re: Barney Miranda

by SILENT PARTNERZ » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:36 am

Wiseguy wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:42 am
SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:38 am Only 13 0r 14 Genovese captains in 1974? Seems like a low number of captains.
Wouldn't they have had around 20 something?
Cafaro testified in 1988 that the family had 14 crews. Would make for larger crews, I guess.
10/4,thanks

Re: Barney Miranda

by Frank » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:46 pm

B. wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:53 pm
Frank wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:28 am What ever happened to Barney Miranda, I would assume he is dead by now. Did he lose influence in the family when Mike Miranda died??
Seems Barney Miranda was active in the family up until his own death, or close to it. An informant from the early 1970s talks about Miranda muscling in on some kind of operation or business during that period, leading to a sitdown, which it looks like he won, though most of the specifics are blocked out. He is referred to as "a relative" of Mike Miranda in this.
Thanks B. It sounds like he could of been a future power in the family,if he hadn't died.

Re: Barney Miranda

by B. » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:53 pm

Frank wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:28 am What ever happened to Barney Miranda, I would assume he is dead by now. Did he lose influence in the family when Mike Miranda died??
Seems Barney Miranda was active in the family up until his own death, or close to it. An informant from the early 1970s talks about Miranda muscling in on some kind of operation or business during that period, leading to a sitdown, which it looks like he won, though most of the specifics are blocked out. He is referred to as "a relative" of Mike Miranda in this.

Re: Barney Miranda

by Frank » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:36 pm

Sorry meant whacking of Zeccardi lol

Re: Barney Miranda

by Frank » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:35 pm

HairyKnuckles wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:42 pm
Frank wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:28 am What ever happened to Barney Miranda, I would assume he is dead by now. Did he lose influence in the family when Mike Miranda died??
Barney died in 1973.
Thanks. Also it appears with you information that Ardito was definitely Consigliere after Miranda, and also briefly on leadership panel. Thanks for that info too. It seems the underboss and Consigliere positions get a little confusing after Ardito stepped down or was removed and the walking of Zeccardi the underboss.

Re: Barney Miranda

by HairyKnuckles » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:42 pm

Frank wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:28 am What ever happened to Barney Miranda, I would assume he is dead by now. Did he lose influence in the family when Mike Miranda died??
Barney died in 1973.

Re: Barney Miranda

by Wiseguy » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:42 am

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:38 am Only 13 0r 14 Genovese captains in 1974? Seems like a low number of captains.
Wouldn't they have had around 20 something?
Cafaro testified in 1988 that the family had 14 crews. Would make for larger crews, I guess.

Re: Barney Miranda

by Frank » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:28 am

What ever happened to Barney Miranda, I would assume he is dead by now. Did he lose influence in the family when Mike Miranda died??

Re: Barney Miranda

by SILENT PARTNERZ » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:38 am

Only 13 0r 14 Genovese captains in 1974? Seems like a low number of captains.
Wouldn't they have had around 20 something?

Re: Barney Miranda

by HairyKnuckles » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:57 am

Ianniello is probably the one who took over the guys once under Carillo somtime in 1974. Not sure why he is not on list. And Tieri's guy Tommy Lombardi took over his old crew plus the ones formerly under DeCarlo. Pasquale Eboli was demoted right after his brother's murder and replaced by Gigante and Alongi (probably co-captains or they took turns heading that crew). Not exactly sure why Eboli is on the list.

B, note that the names are placed in alphabetical order. So the two redacted names could very well be Gigante and Lombardi. (I have the same report.)

And like Pogo said, Cufari should be on the list. Fortunato possibly too. He was later identified in a goverment report as the Family's Florida captain.

Re: Barney Miranda

by Frank » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:08 am

B. wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:45 pm Here is some info I recently found from around this period (1974), some of it backs up what HK has posted about:

-Frank Tieri is the boss, but due to several major surgical operations and illnessess, his ability to run the family was extremely limited. It was believed he also voluntarily stepped back due to all of the attention LE was giving him.

- Due to the above, a ruling panel with underboss Eli Zeccardi, consigliere John Ardito, and Dominick Alongi were running the family. Ardito was described as being very close with Mike Miranda and seems to have replaced him.

- In winter of 1974, St. Louis boss Tony Giordano visited the east coast where he met with Gambino consigliere Joe Gallo, Colombo underboss Abbatemarco, and Phil Lombardo, ID'd on the report as a Genovese capo. So at the very least, Lombardo was still allowed to represent the administration at this time.

- Jerry Catena, still incarcerated at this time, had retired and stepped back entirely from a leadership position.

- Captains Antonio Carillo and Angelo DeCarlo had died during the previous year and had not been officially replaced yet. The report doesn't say it, but we know Carillo helped run the family during the 1960s in some kind of unofficial capacity.

- The structure of the organization is listed as follows:
Boss - Frank Tieri
Former boss - Gerardo Catena (incarcerated)
Underboss - Eli Zeccardi
Consigliere - John Ardito
Captains:
Vincent Alo
Ruggiero Boiardo
Peter DeFeo
Pasquale Eboli
Gus Frasca
Vincenzo Generoso (retired)
Thomas Greco
Harry Lanza
Joseph Lapi
Peter LaPlaca
Philip Lombardo
(There are two additional redacted names; these likely correspond to other info in the same report that says two individuals were recently promoted to captain. Note that they were not made captains of the Carillo/DeCarlo crews.)
Yes that is some good info and it backs up HK info of Tieri being boss.

Re: Barney Miranda

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:45 pm

B. wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:45 pm (There are two additional redacted names; these likely correspond to other info in the same report that says two individuals were recently promoted to captain. Note that they were not made captains of the Carillo/DeCarlo crews.)

The two redacted could be Matteo “Matty Brown” Fortunato and Salvatore “Big Nose” Cufari who were Capos during this period. Thanks again for posting all of this info,


Pogo

Re: Barney Miranda

by B. » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:45 pm

Here is some info I recently found from around this period (1974), some of it backs up what HK has posted about:

-Frank Tieri is the boss, but due to several major surgical operations and illnessess, his ability to run the family was extremely limited. It was believed he also voluntarily stepped back due to all of the attention LE was giving him.

- Due to the above, a ruling panel with underboss Eli Zeccardi, consigliere John Ardito, and Dominick Alongi were running the family. Ardito was described as being very close with Mike Miranda and seems to have replaced him.

- In winter of 1974, St. Louis boss Tony Giordano visited the east coast where he met with Gambino consigliere Joe Gallo, Colombo underboss Abbatemarco, and Phil Lombardo, ID'd on the report as a Genovese capo. So at the very least, Lombardo was still allowed to represent the administration at this time.

- Jerry Catena, still incarcerated at this time, had retired and stepped back entirely from a leadership position.

- Captains Antonio Carillo and Angelo DeCarlo had died during the previous year and had not been officially replaced yet. The report doesn't say it, but we know Carillo helped run the family during the 1960s in some kind of unofficial capacity.

- The structure of the organization is listed as follows:
Boss - Frank Tieri
Former boss - Gerardo Catena (incarcerated)
Underboss - Eli Zeccardi
Consigliere - John Ardito
Captains:
Vincent Alo
Ruggiero Boiardo
Peter DeFeo
Pasquale Eboli
Gus Frasca
Vincenzo Generoso (retired)
Thomas Greco
Harry Lanza
Joseph Lapi
Peter LaPlaca
Philip Lombardo
(There are two additional redacted names; these likely correspond to other info in the same report that says two individuals were recently promoted to captain. Note that they were not made captains of the Carillo/DeCarlo crews.)

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