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by **Teddy Persico** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:00 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:59 pm I don't know why you keep comparing his situation to a hypothetical Bellamo conviction. I don't know what you're talking about.

Because that was what Jermeythejew was asking about.

by **Vknicks** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:39 pm

They shouldn't have taken any plea.. The FBI screwed this case royally there is obviously a reason they are not calling this FBI agent who drove delivered money etc he did something they dont want brought up under cross examination .. also dont belive for a second one of the lead agents the women who retired who helped make this case retired as a coincidence right around this trial the FBI says shes clean but they are obviously hiding there blunders .... These guys have a good chance of beating the trial and if they didnt offer sweetheart deals and criminal defense attorneys weren't so expensive they would have at least another dozen guys taking it to trial.

by **Rocco** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:37 am

Cheech wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:05 am Onofrio got a bad heart.

Usually they only have a bad heart at sentencing.

by **Cheech** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:05 am

Onofrio got a bad heart.

by **dack2001** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:15 am

At this point given Lovaglio's track record i would bet he would say just about anything to get out from under his eight year state court sentence. I bet he woke up one day, read the paper in the county jail protective wing and saw these two guys were going to trial and "just remembered" that he had been introduced to them as leaders in the bullshit east coast enterprise. The sad thing is that Lovaglio's agents and the prosecutors probably know he's a serial liar trying to get out from under but simply want Merlino more than keeping their integrity.

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:59 pm

Onofrio is close to death?

I don't know why you keep comparing his situation to a hypothetical Bellamo conviction. I don't know what you're talking about.

My only point was Onofrio (and Merlino) should've plead out IMO.

by **Teddy Persico** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:43 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:02 pm
Teddy Persico wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:52 pm Good point, but would you find it easier to risk 10 years at 75 and possibility die in prison or risk a definite life sentence at 39?
Sofie's choice.

The real question is whether a 75yr old should've taken a 12-18month plea or risk ten years at trial.

Not so much a sofie's choice.

He was facing 57 months, not 12-18.

My point was that risking a life sentence at 75 is different than risking a life sentence at 39. Onofrio is old and is close to death anyways, so ultimately he's only looking at about 10 years in prison either way. Bellomo would of had to live the second half of his life in prison before dying. If dying in prison was a real concern for Onforio, he probably would've retired by now. It's why a guy like Matthew Madonna is still ordering murders in his 80s.

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:25 pm

"In a bit of a surprise, prosecutors will not call the undercover FBI agent who was introduced into the investigation by Rubeo, and who served as Rooster Onofrio's driver for two years. That agent, who was not a subject of the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) probe, taped numerous talks with Onofrio. Sources say he also got Merlino on tape at least once, at the December 2014 Christmas party that Patsy Parrello hosted at his popular Bronx eatery, Pasquale's Rigoletto."

I'm surprised no ones picked up on this.

This is huge IMO.

The Feds are putting on the stand two wife beating CW's, one who deleted his recordings and the other who took an ex cops eye out and they won't put a squeaky clean Federal agent who was undercover and served as the main witnesses driver for two years on the stand?
What, the fuck?

This absolutely baffles me and MUST be a gift from above for Onofrio.

I'd love a good reason for this absolute left fielder.

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:02 pm

Teddy Persico wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:52 pm Good point, but would you find it easier to risk 10 years at 75 and possibility die in prison or risk a definite life sentence at 39?

Sofie's choice.

The real question is whether a 75yr old should've taken a 12-18month plea or risk ten years at trial.

Not so much a sofie's choice.

by **Teddy Persico** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:52 pm

Good point, but would you find it easier to risk 10 years at 75 and possibility die in prison or risk a definite life sentence at 39?

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:31 pm

Teddy Persico wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:20 pmOnofrio is only looking at 10 or so years at trial in a faulty case.

10 years for a 75yr old is a fucking hell of a long time.
I'm 38 and to lose ten years would be a fucking huge sacrifice at my age. At 75 it's almost a life sentence.

by **Teddy Persico** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:20 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:51 pm interesting that Roosters hold up for not taking the plea was he didnt wanna admit that he was a Genovese memeber....

the boss even admitted that he was! suprised that bothered him..

Bellomo probably would of reacted the same way if he wasn't facing life in prison. Onofrio is only looking at 10 or so years at trial in a faulty case. He was reluctant to plead guilty from the start.

by **UTC** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:49 pm

Disgrace that Sentner was not killed.

by **JeremyTheJew** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:51 pm

interesting that Roosters hold up for not taking the plea was he didnt wanna admit that he was a Genovese memeber....

the boss even admitted that he was! suprised that bothered him..

by **Chucky** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:56 am

Lovaglio is there to identify Merlino as an LCN boss to the jury, nothing more. If they believe him, then it's a win for the feds.

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