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Re: Riccobene?

by B. » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:28 pm

UTC wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:18 pm Wonder if he snitched on the bikers he was the liaison to--or whether he was more loyal to them.
From what I've seen, he spoke in generalities at most when it came to active crimes. Most of what he shared was on the history, structure, and of course his opinions. We don't know if he continued giving information during the 1970s/80s when he was on the street either.

Re: Riccobene?

by UTC » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:18 pm

Wonder if he snitched on the bikers he was the liaison to--or whether he was more loyal to them.

Re: Riccobene?

by Attaboi 1 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:27 pm

Nobody was worth membership in his eyes, yet he was snitching the whole time. Lol. I thought he flipped after going away after the fighting with scarfo

Re: Riccobene?

by B. » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:37 pm

Riccobene came from a mafia family and could have participated in a mob murder by the time he was made. It was a different time then, and more than one informant mentions members being made around age 17 in the US and age 13 in Sicily. Membership wasn't about having the "best" rackets (Philly was historically unsophisticated when it came to racketeering anyway), but the right connections and being in the right place at the right time.

Riccobene was a strange guy. He consistently complained that the organization had seen better days and lowered its standards... he expresses this in FBI docs in the 1960s, on wiretaps in the 1970s, and in interviews after going to prison through the 90s. However, he broke the cardinal rule by giving extensive information on the history and structure of the family to the FBI, so there's some cognitive dissonance there when it comes to "standards".

Re: Riccobene?

by The Cat » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:51 pm

Almost hard to believe what kind of rackets could he have had that a thirty year old could of let slip by into his hands.

Re: Riccobene?

by JeremyTheJew » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:15 pm

says the guy made at 16 years old. im sure he deserved it then.

Re: Riccobene?

by B. » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:42 pm

Ed wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:19 pm Yes, this informant is almost certainly Riccobene. Some of things he said in this report can be found in other reports with more incriminating details that can be traced back to Riccobene.

Riccobene was out-of-the-loop on the current membership and policies because he had been in prison for some time when he began to talk and was a bit of an independent operator before that.
He may have actually been lying in the above doc. Rocco Scafidi, who is mentioned above, talks in one report about meeting with Riccobene in prison along with Testa and Scarfo. He says that Scarfo was introduced to Riccobene as an amico nostra and Riccobene became upset and ranted about the state of the organization. There is also at least one other instance where Riccobene denied a well-known member was actually a member. It's known that Riccobene felt many men were undeserving of membership, so he may have told the FBI these guys were non-members simply because he felt they didn't deserve it.

Re: Riccobene?

by Ed » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:19 pm

Yes, this informant is almost certainly Riccobene. Some of things he said in this report can be found in other reports with more incriminating details that can be traced back to Riccobene.

Riccobene was out-of-the-loop on the current membership and policies because he had been in prison for some time when he began to talk and was a bit of an independent operator before that.

Re: Riccobene?

by yatescj7781 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:30 pm

Hailbritain wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:58 pm
Antiliar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:09 pm I don't think he was responsible for any busts. He was a confidential informant providing the FBI with intel. He didn't testify. His identity was kept a secret. We know that he gave info in the 1960s, but we don't know how long he kept on giving information.
How do we 100% know he gave info to the Feds in the 60s ?? Where is the definitive proof ???
He definitely gave info, just like Salvatore Bonanno. I don't know what files are archived here, I will go through my file cabinet and search for the Riccobene files. The source of the above file doesn't sound like Riccobene. He would have known Scarfo was made at the time of this report.

Re: Riccobene?

by Antiliar » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:56 pm

Find the old thread where we discussed it and you'll find your proof.

Re: Riccobene?

by Hailbritain » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:58 pm

Antiliar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:09 pm I don't think he was responsible for any busts. He was a confidential informant providing the FBI with intel. He didn't testify. His identity was kept a secret. We know that he gave info in the 1960s, but we don't know how long he kept on giving information.
How do we 100% know he gave info to the Feds in the 60s ?? Where is the definitive proof ???

Re: Riccobene?

by Antiliar » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:09 pm

I don't think he was responsible for any busts. He was a confidential informant providing the FBI with intel. He didn't testify. His identity was kept a secret. We know that he gave info in the 1960s, but we don't know how long he kept on giving information.

Re: Riccobene?

by The Cat » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:58 am

what busts was he responsible for with the information he gave ?

Re: Riccobene?

by yatescj7781 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:08 am

Riccobene was an informant but I don't think this document was from him.

Re: Riccobene?

by Attaboi 1 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:32 am

So riccobene was an informant while Bruno was alive or am I reading that wrong?

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