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Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by Raven » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:49 am

I would think if this meeting/conference really took place and was known about the FBI would have some files on it. Appalachin and what was is commonly called little appalachin (nyc restaraunt meeting) are both well documented. If it happened I do not think it was of the scale your source says.

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by furiofromnaples » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:56 am

Nothing on mary ferrell this what I found:

http://incitytimesworcester.org/worcest ... dence-mob/

This set off a brief but interesting war between Patriarca’s Providence faction and Iaconi’s Worcester operation. The Hollywood version of a 1940s Mafia war involves gangsters with submachine guns mowing down their enemies. This war was different. Patriarca struck not at Iaconi but at Iaconi’s money. It was as if Patriarca was a corporate leader out to reassert his authority over a distant subsidiary, eager to exert control, while preserving his operating assets and seasoned personnel. Patriarca’s use of violence was extremely sophisticated and surprisingly surreptitious.

Iaconi’s money was out in the open, on the street in gambling dens. It could be hit. Patriarca had good intelligence. He knew Worcester well, having lived there in the 1920s and 1930s. He also had blood relatives in Worcester and, most likely, informants inside the Worcester Mafia. Patriarca sent his gunmen into Worcester to raid Iaconi’s gambling parlors. Instead of leaving bullet riddled bodies in the street, which would attract media attention, Patriarca resorted to robberies that went largely unnoticed by the press.

Patriarca maintained his ties with Worcester. “Patriarca frequently met with friends and business associates in Worcester over the years,” the Worcester Telegram reported when Patriarca died of natural causes in July 1984. “Patriarca also admitted to investigators he had attended the so-called ‘Little Apalachin’ conclave of East Coast mobsters at the former Bancroft Hotel on Franklin Street in Worcester in 1959.”

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by HairyKnuckles » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:04 am

I have only heard of "Little Apalachin" referring to the 1966 LaStella Restaurant meeting. I am by no means an "expert" but I researched and read a lot of mafia stuff and I have never once heard of this Worcester meeting.
Off the top of my head, neither have I. One would think that it should have been mentioned by any of the numerous informants who gave information to the feds in the 1960s if the meeting had in fact taken place. But there´s nothing.that I can find.
Furio do you look into or research the background of articles or links you post? Could save you from looking like a jackass.
What Raven is referring to here is that you should look into what you post. The link you provided above was not a link to the snippet of the article you posted. No need to get bitchy about it. (I deleted your last post.)

What you could do is to get on Mary Ferrell and search for Frank Iaconi and try to find anything on the supposed 1959 Worcester Hotel meeting. And if you find anything, you´re welcome to post it here and I´ll be the first to admit that I was wrong, if I was wrong.

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by furiofromnaples » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:31 am

HairyKnuckles wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:28 pm Furio, Frank Iaconi died in 1956, that's 3 years before he declared war on the Mafia.
The war started in 1940s and the meeting was done only because Iaconi died in 1956.

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by Raven » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:47 pm

I have only heard of "Little Apalachin" referring to the 1966 LaStella Restaurant meeting. I am by no means an "expert" but I researched and read a lot of mafia stuff and I have never once heard of this Worcester meeting.


:lol: Furio do you look into or research the background of articles or links you post? Could save you from looking like a jackass.

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by Geekgang666 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:51 pm

Well I to believe that they may have exaggerated about the number of people that was present at that meeting a lot times newspapers would do that just to sell papers.

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by Geekgang666 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:46 pm

Thanks for sharing that post HairyKnuckles.

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by HairyKnuckles » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:28 pm

Furio, Frank Iaconi died in 1956, that's 3 years before he declared war on the Mafia.

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by furiofromnaples » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:56 am

HairyKnuckles wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:25 am
furiofromnaples wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:58 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:35 am Bullshit I say. 150 Mafia dons? From where did all these dons come from? Russia? After the fiasco in Apalachin 1957 there were no mass meetings of Mafia dons nowhere.
The newspaper doesn't had much info and has IMO deliberately exaggerated the numbers; in another article is said that the meeting was for solve the problems after Frank Iaconi worchester gambling king had declared a war to patriarca sr. IMO opinion that was the real reason: a simple meeting for the gambling racket.
Yeah, when a dead man's ghost declare a war on Cosa Nostra it' s time for negotiations. 😁
http://incitytimesworcester.org/worcest ... dence-mob/

Worcester mafia boss Frank Iaconi’s war with the Providence mob
October 8, 2008

Worcester gang war
Watching all this from Worcester, Iaconi sensed weakness on Patriarca’s part. Virgil Peterson told the Kefauver Committee what happened next: “In 1940, when Daniel H. Coakley, a member of the Governor’s Council in Massachusetts, was impeached for obtaining the release of Patriarca from the Massachusetts State Penitentiary, Iaconi informed Patriarca that he should stay out of Worcester.”

This set off a brief but interesting war between Patriarca’s Providence faction and Iaconi’s Worcester operation. The Hollywood version of a 1940s Mafia war involves gangsters with submachine guns mowing down their enemies. This war was different. Patriarca struck not at Iaconi but at Iaconi’s money. It was as if Patriarca was a corporate leader out to reassert his authority over a distant subsidiary, eager to exert control, while preserving his operating assets and seasoned personnel. Patriarca’s use of violence was extremely sophisticated and surprisingly surreptitious.

Iaconi’s money was out in the open, on the street in gambling dens. It could be hit. Patriarca had good intelligence. He knew Worcester well, having lived there in the 1920s and 1930s. He also had blood relatives in Worcester and, most likely, informants inside the Worcester Mafia. Patriarca sent his gunmen into Worcester to raid Iaconi’s gambling parlors. Instead of leaving bullet riddled bodies in the street, which would attract media attention, Patriarca resorted to robberies that went largely unnoticed by the press.

“There were about four robberies in a very few days,” said Peterson. “One of them involved Tony Santello, who handed over $21,000.” Santello was arrested along with Patriarca in the 1932 Webster National Bank robbery.

“Four days later there was a robbery of a Worcester barroom where Iaconi, a high city official, and four others were present,” continued Peterson. “After another robbery of an Iaconi gambling joint on Green Street in Worcester of $19,000, Patriarca was invited to come to Worcester and make peace with Iaconi. Since that time the Iaconi-Patriarca alliance has been functioning smoothly. Iaconi’s monopoly of gambling in Worcester is an important part of Patriarca’s gambling set up in that particular area.”

The Kefauver Committee was established by the U.S. Senate to investigate organized crime, and named after committee chairman Senator Estes Kefauver. After hearing Peterson’s testimony in 1950, Kefauver himself said the committee would examine Iaconi’s tax returns. This triggered an Internal Revenue Service investigation of Iaconi, who was indicted on five counts in February 1953 of failing to pay a total of $217,875 in taxes on $350,000 in rackets revenue. The indictment alleged Iaconi had tried to wash clean his gambling receipts by funneling cash through three legitimate enterprises in Worcester.

When he came to trial in July 1954 Iaconi had only two years left to live. He faced the real prospect of dying in prison. Iaconi probably could have cut a deal with prosecutors to give up Patriarca in exchange for his own freedom. But to use today’s vernacular, Iaconi was a “stand up guy”. Frank Iaconi showed himself to be a true Mafioso who would rather die in jail than give up his Don. He pled guilty to one count and served eleven months in federal prison in Danbury Connecticut. Not long after being released from prison Iaconi, already in bad health, died of natural causes.

Patriarca maintained his ties with Worcester. “Patriarca frequently met with friends and business associates in Worcester over the years,” the Worcester Telegram reported when Patriarca died of natural causes in July 1984. “Patriarca also admitted to investigators he had attended the so-called ‘Little Apalachin’ conclave of East Coast mobsters at the former Bancroft Hotel on Franklin Street in Worcester in 1959.”

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by HairyKnuckles » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:25 am

furiofromnaples wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:58 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:35 am Bullshit I say. 150 Mafia dons? From where did all these dons come from? Russia? After the fiasco in Apalachin 1957 there were no mass meetings of Mafia dons nowhere.
The newspaper doesn't had much info and has IMO deliberately exaggerated the numbers; in another article is said that the meeting was for solve the problems after Frank Iaconi worchester gambling king had declared a war to patriarca sr. IMO opinion that was the real reason: a simple meeting for the gambling racket.
Yeah, when a dead man's ghost declare a war on Cosa Nostra it' s time for negotiations. 😁

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by furiofromnaples » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:58 am

HairyKnuckles wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:35 am Bullshit I say. 150 Mafia dons? From where did all these dons come from? Russia? After the fiasco in Apalachin 1957 there were no mass meetings of Mafia dons nowhere.
The newspaper doesn't had much info and has IMO deliberately exaggerated the numbers; in another article is said that the meeting was for solve the problems after Frank Iaconi worchester gambling king had declared a war to patriarca sr. IMO opinion that was the real reason: a simple meeting for the gambling racket.

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by HairyKnuckles » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:35 am

Bullshit I say. 150 Mafia dons? From where did all these dons come from? Russia? After the fiasco in Apalachin 1957 there were no mass meetings of Mafia dons nowhere.

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by Geekgang666 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:18 am

Nice find furiofromnaples

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by furiofromnaples » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:01 am

https://books.google.it/books?id=kvtu2C ... 60&f=false

During the 1950s and early 1960s, friction between rival Mob factions in Youngstown,made 81 deads [...] November 8, 1959, meeting of 150 Mafia dons in a Worcester, Massachusetts

Re: Worcester Hotel meeting in 1959

by dixiemafia » Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:55 am

I would believe that Patriarca was there, Worcester was his birthplace and part of his territory.

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