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Re: Mob Social Club Map

by yatescj7781 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:30 pm

Bruno187 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:37 am Years ago, they didn't bother with anything, as surveillance wasn't what it is today. Just put the key in the door at night and go home.
Later, some guys started putting rolling metal fencing or gates on places, as it makes a shit load of noise and is virtually impassable to a crackhead snatch and grab guy looking for a few bucks.
We had a place in the Bronx that was shuttered up with gates tighter than a mouse's ass and heard the NYPD Vice guys were coming and hitting places, so we hurriedly closed the place, pulled the gates down, then stood around on the corner. The cops roll up and see the gates, and don't even bother getting out of the cars, so we think all is well and we start to chuckle. Within 20 minutes ESU rolls up with a welding truck and cables. The Lieutenant comes over to us and says, "Look, we have a warrant, so either open the place up, or we're gonna pull the gates off with the welders and cables". We reluctantly complied since we didn't want to lose a couple grand worth of gating. They poked around for a while, took the machines, arrested the guy behind the counter and were gone.
In the end, if the FEDS want to get into a place, they're gonna get in.
Was this a social club? If so what family?

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by Confederate » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:06 pm

Yes, Thank you both very much. I was wondering if they later put cameras inside the Club to monitor from off premises but I guess based upon what both of you said, it doesn't really matter.

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by bronx » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:22 pm

Confed, like Bruno said ,if it was the moral squad that would go to gambling clubs, they had search and seizure.nothing you could do, they did not bug places, the state rarely bugged , the feds have all types of tech, no sense trying to counter, the whole thing is these are just hang out meeting places, cards, bullshitting, not to go there and say lets plot a murder and do it around a table ,oops forgot to tell gotti that ,and a few others, no way anyone goes to the club to plot serious crimes. meet there take a walk or make up a place to talk later on. my opinion .hope that helps

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by Bruno187 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:37 am

Years ago, they didn't bother with anything, as surveillance wasn't what it is today. Just put the key in the door at night and go home.
Later, some guys started putting rolling metal fencing or gates on places, as it makes a shit load of noise and is virtually impassable to a crackhead snatch and grab guy looking for a few bucks.
We had a place in the Bronx that was shuttered up with gates tighter than a mouse's ass and heard the NYPD Vice guys were coming and hitting places, so we hurriedly closed the place, pulled the gates down, then stood around on the corner. The cops roll up and see the gates, and don't even bother getting out of the cars, so we think all is well and we start to chuckle. Within 20 minutes ESU rolls up with a welding truck and cables. The Lieutenant comes over to us and says, "Look, we have a warrant, so either open the place up, or we're gonna pull the gates off with the welders and cables". We reluctantly complied since we didn't want to lose a couple grand worth of gating. They poked around for a while, took the machines, arrested the guy behind the counter and were gone.
In the end, if the FEDS want to get into a place, they're gonna get in.

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by Confederate » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:00 am

Bronx, in your opinion, what kind of security do the different Families in New York use to SECURE their social club when it closes?
Is there a video camera inside the Club where a Mob guy responsible can see what may be happening when no one is there?
How did they secure the Club years ago?
I remember reading somewhere on more than one occasion when the Feds were able to break into a particular Social Club and plant an electronic listening device.

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by bronx » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:48 am

yes .gene

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by AlexfromSouth » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:47 am

bronx wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:17 am Alex, you wanted ducks clubs, they are some of the guys i listed, boobsie also hung out at a luncheonette on crops near bay parkway, also had a club on bath ave frankie bones hung there near bay pkwy also.on the other side of bay pkwy on bath tico's brother didi had a club. borriello and scars had a horse room a block from the cops precinct on bath ave,
Yes I know they are Lucchese guys but cant figure out who they were. Is boobsie eugene or john castelle?

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by bronx » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:17 am

Alex, you wanted ducks clubs, they are some of the guys i listed, boobsie also hung out at a luncheonette on crops near bay parkway, also had a club on bath ave frankie bones hung there near bay pkwy also.on the other side of bay pkwy on bath tico's brother didi had a club. borriello and scars had a horse room a block from the cops precinct on bath ave,

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by bronx » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:11 am

hello Yates, 14th ave 68th st.

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by AlexfromSouth » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:03 am

bronx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:02 pm boobsie and scott had a club i believe in the 60's,street swaggy on 14th on 69th.street flowers on 13th in the 70's street.angelic west 6th.. clubs all over
Who are these guys? Boobsie and scott? Who is flowers and angelic?

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by yatescj7781 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:05 pm

you know where swaggy carlucci social club was?

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by AlexfromSouth » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:10 pm

Thanx Bronx.

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by bronx » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:28 pm

way of life.. breaking balls, talking , watching sports, talking food was a big topic, cooking, going to the track from there. no membership fee lol

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by SonnyBlackstein » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:08 pm

cosanostra101 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:30 pm Bronx, knowing the Feds were always watching why on heavens name did guys go into these clubs?
Keep in mind these guys didn't work and had to spend their time somewhere. And hanging out playing cards with your buddies was a pretty attractive way to kill your days.

Re: Mob Social Club Map

by bronx » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:54 pm

hello CN, just part of the everyday routine, like going to work, hanging around like any other mens club just most of them were involved in some type of criminal activity. sure the agents or state guys were around taking pictures , always had to believe they were wired up, some guys got lazy and got caught talking on tape, for the most part on the whole very few guys were pinched from these tapes just bullshit chatter about nothing criminal, castellano blabbed in his house, jerk made that a meeting place every saturday. salerno screwed up, corralo in the jag, gotti ruggierio, loved to blab all the time anyplace, why ? craziness. there was a state investigator kenny macabe..everyone knew him he went to every club .every wedding every wake every everything..taking pictures it became , oh kenny's here . he would not hide .sit right in front, say hello, talk to guys walking by. security was " sign on wall place is bugged " lol. bills were paid from the cut from card games..hope that helps.

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