THE BLACK HAND FORUM

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:01 pm

Angofsin34 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:36 pm I have a question about the Cleveland rep in Newport Kentucky Frank screws Andrews I'm from there and I just want to know a little more about it about him if he was made or and why you was killed

Made? He wasn't Italian. He was under Moe Dalitz and the old Cleveland Mayfield Road Mob which consisted of the Milano Brothers and all the Jewish boys. Check out this article: https://issuu.com/cincinnati/docs/nky-a/29

Also: https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/ca ... f-sin-city

This journal is well researched and very accurate: https://justice.eku.edu/sites/justice.e ... ay2000.pdf

Angofsin34 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:36 pm I have a question about the Cleveland rep in Newport Kentucky Frank screws Andrews I'm from there and I just want to know a little more about it about him if he was made or and why you was killed

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:55 am

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:39 am

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:24 am

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:52 pm Stroccos, please post the articles you mentioned, since most of the ones from that time period aren't for free I think, I remember the newspaper archive I found required a subscription, but after paying for it, it was hard to get it cancelled, I wanted it for 1 month only, to read some articles, and now don't have it anymore. Would be interesting to read them.

You should sign up for the site, pay the monthly cost and do your own research

I paid for a month as I said, will make another subscription of course, it's just I have to decide first which articles to look for. When I had the first subscription, I didn't think about Borgia. I only meant that unfortunately users aren't completely "free" to decide when to interrupt and resume the subscription, they start asking questions why don't I want to pay for the next month, when maybe I just feel like taking a break etc; at least it was like that the first time, maybe it changed, I will check. Most of the sites allow users to just pay for a certain period; if I decide not to subscribe for the immediately following month, they have no problems with that...

Why are you so interested in Akron?

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:39 am

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:24 am

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:52 pm Stroccos, please post the articles you mentioned, since most of the ones from that time period aren't for free I think, I remember the newspaper archive I found required a subscription, but after paying for it, it was hard to get it cancelled, I wanted it for 1 month only, to read some articles, and now don't have it anymore. Would be interesting to read them.

You should sign up for the site, pay the monthly cost and do your own research

I paid for a month as I said, will make another subscription of course, it's just I have to decide first which articles to look for. When I had the first subscription, I didn't think about Borgia. I only meant that unfortunately users aren't completely "free" to decide when to interrupt and resume the subscription, they start asking questions why don't I want to pay for the next month, when maybe I just feel like taking a break etc; at least it was like that the first time, maybe it changed, I will check. Most of the sites allow users to just pay for a certain period; if I decide not to subscribe for the immediately following month, they have no problems with that...

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:24 am

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:52 pm Stroccos, please post the articles you mentioned, since most of the ones from that time period aren't for free I think, I remember the newspaper archive I found required a subscription, but after paying for it, it was hard to get it cancelled, I wanted it for 1 month only, to read some articles, and now don't have it anymore. Would be interesting to read them.

You should sign up for the site, pay the monthly cost and do your own research

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:52 pm Stroccos, please post the articles you mentioned, since most of the ones from that time period aren't for free I think, I remember the newspaper archive I found required a subscription, but after paying for it, it was hard to get it cancelled, I wanted it for 1 month only, to read some articles, and now don't have it anymore. Would be interesting to read them.

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:52 pm Stroccos, please post the articles you mentioned, since most of the ones from that time period aren't for free I think, I remember the newspaper archive I found required a subscription, but after paying for it, it was hard to get it cancelled, I wanted it for 1 month only, to read some articles, and now don't have it anymore. Would be interesting to read them.

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:16 pm

Stroccos wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:34 pm

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:38 pm Borgia's story could be made in an action gangster/police movie imo. Really a "clever" idea: putting a bounty for every policeman killed...If he lived in the same time period as Toto' Riina, they would have become best friends probably.

That's what I said to be A good movie !! , if I recall it was 150 a pop that's 2400 in today's dollars .
Do you happen know How many did he have killed ? I would have to reread he articles . I do have the some of the newspaper articles, I can post them to the forum if anyone is interested

I am not sure 100%, apart from some articles the most detailed description I found was in the book "Wicked Akron", where it's said he had 4 killed (Guy Norris, Edward Costigan, Joseph Hunt, Gethin Richards), but was sentenced for 1 murder only (the Richards one), probably because it was the only one where he was present at the crime scene, so it was easier to prove, although the triggermen implicated him for the other 3 too. It also says after he was executed, another policeman were killed and 2 wounded, revenge maybe (since there wasn't anyone left to pay the bounty). Also, Borgia said he accepted a contract from an outsider to kill somebody, but it's all from the book, don't know if it's 100% verified:

https://books.google.it/books?id=fKcjCg ... ia&f=false

There was also a site with the list of people executed in Ohio and Akron specifically back then, with photos of each, there was the same photo of Borgia as in the book and several others from his group, the ones who went to the chair too. Don't know why, I can't find the link anymore; I remember just writing "Rosario Borgia" on google, and the link came up in the picture section among the first results. Now, it's not there. Maybe I still have their photos downloaded on my computer though, can post if I find them.

In some articles, I remember Rosario Borgia (sometimes spelled Borgio, don't know which one is correct) also used the name Russell Burg.

Stroccos wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:34 pm

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:38 pm Borgia's story could be made in an action gangster/police movie imo. Really a "clever" idea: putting a bounty for every policeman killed...If he lived in the same time period as Toto' Riina, they would have become best friends probably.

That's what I said to be A good movie !! , if I recall it was 150 a pop that's 2400 in today's dollars .
Do you happen know How many did he have killed ? I would have to reread he articles . I do have the some of the newspaper articles, I can post them to the forum if anyone is interested

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:38 pm Borgia's story could be made in an action gangster/police movie imo. Really a "clever" idea: putting a bounty for every policeman killed...If he lived in the same time period as Toto' Riina, they would have become best friends probably.

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:03 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:12 am

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:02 am One of Akron's earlier bosses was Rosario Borgia

Was he affiliated with anyone outside of Akron ? Or just a local gang leader

All I have is that he was a BH leader in Akron

Stroccos wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:12 am

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:02 am One of Akron's earlier bosses was Rosario Borgia

Was he affiliated with anyone outside of Akron ? Or just a local gang leader