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Even if you take almost inevitable jailtime away from it the criminal lifestyle as in the mafia/OC is not worth it. In most of Europe you can still get away with it easier because there's no RICO-stlye anti-mafia repression, but I'd never want to live that life. It's parasitic and it surpresses any real talent you may have. You hang around with idiots all the time in bars/social clubs/restaurants because you have so much spare time and eventually you become an idiot too. Criminal underworld is full of scum and good-for-nothing losers, if you deal with these people on a regular basis you adopt at least some of their habits. Certain sociopathic attitudes become normal to you, it also reflects in the way you talk and behave. There's a reason why everywhere your regular "mafioso" is associated with idiotic stereotypical behaviour. Sure you have some exceptions here and there like the intelligent mobsters who end on the top and earn millions, but even those guys would be way better in regular life as sucessful businessmen or something. Like Pistone said in his book, mobsters are essentially quite boring. Yeah it's fun to watch characters like Paulie in the Sopranos, but imagine hanging out with people like him all the time and only with people like him.

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SonnyBlackstein wrote:Didn't want to start a new thread and posted with little success in BB so a question if anyone can kindly assist:

Anyone know the status of Joseph Baudanza?

Powerful Columbo capo of many years, released in 11 after serving 5 for stock racketeering. Thinking with Farese in Florida and the Claw away he could be a contender for an admin spot?

Any word on this? His crew etc?

My thanks in advance.

I haven't read anything about him, his brother or his nephew down this way. He is around 70 now so maybe he invested some of his cut of that $20 million from the stock scheme in something legit like Meals on Wheels or the South Beach diet.

Didn't want to start a new thread and posted with little success in BB so a question if anyone can kindly assist:

Anyone know the status of Joseph Baudanza?

Powerful Columbo capo of many years, released in 11 after serving 5 for stock racketeering. Thinking with Farese in Florida and the Claw away he could be a contender for an admin spot?

Any word on this? His crew etc?

My thanks in advance.

Chris Christie wrote:

East Bronx wrote:I was gonna sit this one out, but it's a more interesting thread than I thought it would be. I'm not going to answer the question, I'm just going to offer some insight.

You can end up on the fringe without even realizing what the fuck you got yourself into:

But I'm just a bartender, or, I didn't know who these guys were, they just offered to help me, wah wah wah.

Now a man doesn't cry about poor decisions, a man lives with them. I'm just saying, whether you THINK you can be a wiseguy is irrelevant. Because you won't KNOW until you've been tested. And by tested, I don't mean when times are good and you're making a pay. I mean when you're getting squeezed from BOTH sides of the law. Then, and ONLY then, will you know if you could be a wiseguy.

Two cents from a cranky old man.

Your handle should be 'Old School.'

I was thinking just plain ol "old"

edit: forgot the obligatory so everyone knows its a joke and HK doesnt bans me. kidding HK

Chucky wrote:I was gonna 'Rogaine', but Old School works too

Words hurt, Chucky .

Ah, fuck it .

Chris Christie wrote:He set me straight back in the day when I used to roll with the Tanglewood Boys EB pulled me aside and said I shouldn't be hanging around Tore, I told him it's all opinion and he said: no, it's not.

Some things are indeed a matter of opinion. Tore being a Tanglewood Boy is not.

And if you missed it, here's what I had to say about it:

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=470&p=5883&hilit=tanglewood#p5883

Chucky wrote:

Chris Christie wrote:

East Bronx wrote:I was gonna sit this one out, but it's a more interesting thread than I thought it would be. I'm not going to answer the question, I'm just going to offer some insight.

You can end up on the fringe without even realizing what the fuck you got yourself into:

But I'm just a bartender, or, I didn't know who these guys were, they just offered to help me, wah wah wah.

Now a man doesn't cry about poor decisions, a man lives with them. I'm just saying, whether you THINK you can be a wiseguy is irrelevant. Because you won't KNOW until you've been tested. And by tested, I don't mean when times are good and you're making a pay. I mean when you're getting squeezed from BOTH sides of the law. Then, and ONLY then, will you know if you could be a wiseguy.

Two cents from a cranky old man.

Your handle should be 'Old School.'

I was gonna 'Rogaine', but Old School works too

He set me straight back in the day when I used to roll with the Tanglewood Boys EB pulled me aside and said I shouldn't be hanging around Tore, I told him it's all opinion and he said: no, it's not.

Chris Christie wrote:

East Bronx wrote:I was gonna sit this one out, but it's a more interesting thread than I thought it would be. I'm not going to answer the question, I'm just going to offer some insight.

You can end up on the fringe without even realizing what the fuck you got yourself into:

But I'm just a bartender, or, I didn't know who these guys were, they just offered to help me, wah wah wah.

Now a man doesn't cry about poor decisions, a man lives with them. I'm just saying, whether you THINK you can be a wiseguy is irrelevant. Because you won't KNOW until you've been tested. And by tested, I don't mean when times are good and you're making a pay. I mean when you're getting squeezed from BOTH sides of the law. Then, and ONLY then, will you know if you could be a wiseguy.

Two cents from a cranky old man.

Your handle should be 'Old School.'

I was gonna 'Rogaine', but Old School works too

East Bronx wrote:@Christie: I only said ouch because I hide my online status most of the time .

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East Bronx wrote:I was gonna sit this one out, but it's a more interesting thread than I thought it would be. I'm not going to answer the question, I'm just going to offer some insight.

You can end up on the fringe without even realizing what the fuck you got yourself into:

But I'm just a bartender, or, I didn't know who these guys were, they just offered to help me, wah wah wah.

Now a man doesn't cry about poor decisions, a man lives with them. I'm just saying, whether you THINK you can be a wiseguy is irrelevant. Because you won't KNOW until you've been tested. And by tested, I don't mean when times are good and you're making a pay. I mean when you're getting squeezed from BOTH sides of the law. Then, and ONLY then, will you know if you could be a wiseguy.

Two cents from a cranky old man.

Your handle should be 'Old School.'

I was gonna sit this one out, but it's a more interesting thread than I thought it would be. I'm not going to answer the question, I'm just going to offer some insight.

You can end up on the fringe without even realizing what the fuck you got yourself into:

But I'm just a bartender, or, I didn't know who these guys were, they just offered to help me, wah wah wah.

Now a man doesn't cry about poor decisions, a man lives with them. I'm just saying, whether you THINK you can be a wiseguy is irrelevant. Because you won't KNOW until you've been tested. And by tested, I don't mean when times are good and you're making a pay. I mean when you're getting squeezed from BOTH sides of the law. Then, and ONLY then, will you know if you could be a wiseguy.

Two cents from a cranky old man.

I could have been an associate, doing business with these guys, hoping I won't get squeezed in the process. But a real wiseguy? I don't think so, I probably couldn't deal with the stress and would get increasingly paranoid. I'm not the kind of guy who could keep his calm in such a lifestyle.

I could join the WASP mafia. Serving coffee with milk, a newspaper and croquet every Sunday at the Union Club for no extra charge also enjoy part time residence at Beacon Hill. We aren't exclusive, but the bowling team still has to be white and Protestant

Out of all the trades that are on the job site the hardest to me is masonry. I seen those guys break there balls. I always shook my head. Fuck that.