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by **Stroccos** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:07 am

UTC wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:23 pm Yes, clearly, but hard to wade through like reading a scrapbook comprised of 50 years of newspaper clippings.

I could see it being very dry , I have yet to read it , i haven't even read jungle inn yet either I bought them just to support Allan but there sitting in a box somewhere

by **UTC** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:23 pm

Yes, clearly, but hard to wade through like reading a scrapbook comprised of 50 years of newspaper clippings.

by **JCB1977** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:43 am

UTC wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:58 pm Not exactly a "Can't put it down" offering.

It's more of a factual history of OC in the Mahoning Valley...it will give you info on the players and a who's who of OC in the Ohio River Valley

by **phatmatress777** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:26 am

UTC wrote:Not exactly a "Can't put it down" offering.

You read it?

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by **UTC** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:58 pm

Not exactly a "Can't put it down" offering.

by **JCB1977** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:57 pm

UTC wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:17 pm I'm making an effort to read Allen May's book on Youngstown.

It will certainly peak your interest regarding the history of OC in the Greater Youngstown area. LOTS OF HISTORY, mostly from news articles.

by **UTC** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:17 pm

I'm making an effort to read Allen May's book on Youngstown.

by **JCB1977** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:20 pm

It could have happened...but Pat was a squeaky clean guy, he also could have misconstrued what Iati said to him. At the end of the day, Joey didn't need Pat, he had half of Mahoning County LE in his pocket along with the prosecutor, a few judges and a congressman. He had several mayors of smaller suburbs on his payroll...and the one thing I could say about Joey, too much with never enough and it became his undoing at the end.

by **Jim505** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:50 pm

This is what I was referring to. From an article at americanmafia.com by James Ridgway de Szigethy

Not so fortunate was the Reverend Joseph Iati, Pastor of Our Lady of Mount Carmel Catholic Church in Youngstown. In 1986 Father Iati was found dead of a gunshot wound to his head. Youngstown authorities officially ruled Iati’s death a suicide. Iati was a beloved and respected member of the community, but in July, 2000 former Youngstown Mayor Patrick Ungaro told the Plain Dealer that Father Iati on numerous occasions tried to bribe him with money from Joey Naples, a Pittsburgh Mafia Family figure. Naples, a Mount Carmel parishioner, was among those who contributed to the $163,000 bribe given to Traficant during his successful 1980 campaign for Mahoning County Sheriff.

by **JCB1977** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:45 pm

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:25 am
JCB1977 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:18 am
Jim505 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:44 pm When the mobsters couldn't bribe him, they had a priest (Iati) do it. Didn't work.
Fr. DeMarinis was Joey Naples' guy. Pat is so busy I don't see him getting around to actually doing it...hopefully I'm wrong but I can't picture him doing the research.
I think he meant Fr.Joe Iati. Fr.Joe went from St. Charles then Mooney and finally to Our Lady of Mt. Carmel. You know what happened there
Fr. Joe had a couple of "sponsors". Ed Sr. at St Charles then Tony C at Our Lady. Fr. Joe was one of your Uncle Nickey's best customers
I know Pat and out of respect for him I didn't have his son arrested when he caused an incident at my place that resulted in a law suit.
Needless to say: The law suit got dismissed I have no idea what Jim505 is talking about. Maybe he could elaborate?

Hi FOH,

I knew Fr. Joe very well, in fact, Joey picked up his tab for his tailor made suits. And so did Jimmy Naples. Fr. Joe never paid for anything.

However, Joey was exceptionally close to Reverend DeMarinis of St. Anthony's in Brier Hill, I believe he did Joey 'a funeral Mass

by **FriendofHenry** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:25 am

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:18 am
Jim505 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:44 pm When the mobsters couldn't bribe him, they had a priest (Iati) do it. Didn't work.
Fr. DeMarinis was Joey Naples' guy. Pat is so busy I don't see him getting around to actually doing it...hopefully I'm wrong but I can't picture him doing the research.

I think he meant Fr.Joe Iati. Fr.Joe went from St. Charles then Mooney and finally to Our Lady of Mt. Carmel. You know what happened there

Fr. Joe had a couple of "sponsors". Ed Sr. at St Charles then Tony C at Our Lady. Fr. Joe was one of your Uncle Nickey's best customers

I know Pat and out of respect for him I didn't have his son arrested when he caused an incident at my place that resulted in a law suit.
Needless to say: The law suit got dismissed

I have no idea what Jim505 is talking about. Maybe he could elaborate?

by **JCB1977** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:18 am

Jim505 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:44 pm When the mobsters couldn't bribe him, they had a priest (Iati) do it. Didn't work.

Fr. DeMarinis was Joey Naples' guy. Pat is so busy I don't see him getting around to actually doing it...hopefully I'm wrong but I can't picture him doing the research.

by **Jim505** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:44 pm

When the mobsters couldn't bribe him, they had a priest (Iati) do it. Didn't work.

by **Ivan** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:17 am

phatmatress777 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:56 pm Youngstown has great stories and colorful characters

yeah it's a crazy place, like a smaller version of Philly kind of, but with more car bombs

by **phatmatress777** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:56 pm

Youngstown has great stories and colorful characters

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