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Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:46 pm

Good point mm. There has to be more to it than that though. He wasn't part of the Meldish murder and an associate wouldn't have been privy to the chain of command so it's likely that he gave the Feds cause for tapping or a bug from which they got the evidence to charge the Creas and Madonna.

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by moneyman » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:33 pm

From Gangland on June 8

Federal prosecutors used a longtime but little-known mob associate named Joseph Foti to help them obtain a murder and racketeering conspiracy indictment against the leadership of the Luchese crime family and 14 other defendants, Gang Land has learned.

Sources say Foti, 65, who has ties to two crime families, began wearing a wire for the FBI's squad that investigates the Gambino and Luchese families before the November 2013 murder of Michael Meldish. He continued tape-recording conversations after the gangland-style slaying. But the sources declined to provide any other details about his work as an undercover operative in the case.

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:17 pm

Meldish had a death wish.
Cheating with a bosses girlfriend. Ignoring warnings to stop. Then after getting tuned up as a result he tries to clip a made guy in retribution. Even though LCN tries to avoid clipping people at all costs he forced their hands here. 40yrs ago he would've got clipped at stage one.

Interesting story. LOVE to know what evidence they have against the Creas to charge. Whether it was wiretapping, a bug or someone's flipped.

Speaking off..

C'mon Wonder boy, roll already!

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by TommyGambino » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:23 am

Etna wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:20 am Thanks for the clarification. I thought he was just an associate. Ernest Aiello is also made? Is he related to Anthony "Ace" Aiello?
Actually, when the attempted hit happened on Stagno, he was described as an associate in the papers I think, I could be wrong. Then recently Capeci said he was a made guy, maybe your right and he was made after the shooting.

I asked the same question about the Aiello's being related, I don't think they are.

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by Etna » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:20 am

Thanks for the clarification. I thought he was just an associate. Ernest Aiello is also made? Is he related to Anthony "Ace" Aiello?

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by TommyGambino » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:18 am

Etna wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:17 am Maybe he went after Stagno because he isn't made?
Stagno is made

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by Etna » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:17 am

Maybe he went after Stagno because he isn't made?

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by TommyGambino » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:10 am

thegunners wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:58 am Good column. But if it was Aiello who dished out the beating why did Meldish go after Stagno?
Maybe he was with Aiello when he beat him up? Or maybe he just wanted to kill any Bonanno he seen

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by thegunners » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:58 am

Good column. But if it was Aiello who dished out the beating why did Meldish go after Stagno?

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by TommyGambino » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:44 am

Chucky wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:18 am
TommyGambino wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:54 am So he was clipped for leaving the Stagno hit. Interesting, Capeci's sources were convinced it was because he was bad mouthing Madonna previously.
I think he was clipped for going after Stagno, not leaving Caldwell...though, I think that further pissed off Madonna.
Yeah, I think I got it wrong. I thought this meant he defied orders by fleeing the hit on Stagno, makes more sense that Madonna had warned Meldish not to retaliate to the beating he took. Why did Caldwell get a pass for going after Stagno though?

'As Gang Land has previously reported, both law enforcement and other sources say that in the many months before the volatile gangster was killed, Madonna had badmouthed Meldish for "disrespecting" him by not obeying his orders.'

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by Chucky » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:18 am

TommyGambino wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:54 am So he was clipped for leaving the Stagno hit. Interesting, Capeci's sources were convinced it was because he was bad mouthing Madonna previously.
I think he was clipped for going after Stagno, not leaving Caldwell...though, I think that further pissed off Madonna.

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by TommyGambino » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:54 am

So he was clipped for leaving the Stagno hit. Interesting, Capeci's sources were convinced it was because he was bad mouthing Madonna previously.

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by OlBlueEyesClub » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:43 am

Interesting column this week, thanks for this HB. Thats messed up on Meldish's part for leaving Caldwell like that after a shooting of one of his own rivals. Shows that he didn't think much of Caldwell in the first place, it had to be so satisfying for Caldwell to kill him, as Chucky said before. These guys fool around with each others mistresses all the time, at the same time, Meldish had to know that that sort of thing could get him killed. He had to hear the story about the guy who fooled around with Milwaukee Phil's girl, lol. Probably not, but still, these articles make Meldish seem like an asshole, a very unlikable guy and tough type to deal with.

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by Rocco » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:29 am

More Importantly who is the rat who wore a wire to gain the evidence for the indictment ?? You would think it would come out now.

Re: Gangland news 22nd June 2017

by Chucky » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:30 am

Excellent column this week; clears some shit up. So it was Meldish who tried to clip Stango because he was beaten by Aiello, and the Lucchese took him out for it essentially. Interesting that Caldwell was involved with both, and that Meldish bailed on him after he shot Stango, must have been satisfying for Caldwell to blow his brains out.

So we got two of the hits cleared up, but now I'm curious which Bonanno member Crea order Cassano to kill? Also, Capeci seems to hint that the Bonannos may have been involved in the Meldish hit. Some good shit should come out during the trial.

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