THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Stroccos wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:09 pm

Canardo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:38 am

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:59 am

willychichi wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:50 pm

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:54 pm To be clear my question was, what cities had the 2nd and 3rd highest italian american population? 1st being New York, of course. Thanks

It's hard to say for sure Alex, the last census we have data from was taken in 1990 and at that time NYC had 1.8 million Italians followed by Boston, Philly and Chicago who all had about 490,000 Italians living in their respective cities, a lot can happen in 27 years. It was interesting to me and JCB probably knows this that Pittsburgh was number 5 at that time with about 380,000. Fort Lauderdale, Florida came in at #16 with 140,000 which was a surprise to me. Since that time people have flocked to the southern and western states to get out of the cold and find jobs so I'm sure the numbers are way down today from what they were in 1990.

Yes a lot can happen in 27 years, thank you for your post. Boston had that large of a population of italian americans? Someone like me (from europe) would think that irish are big in numbers there. Never thougt Boston would come at number two.

Boston had 640.000 people living in the city in '13. How's there gonna be almost half a million Italians amongst them 20 years earlier..?

-Canardo-

It includes the metropolitan areas, also note its people who are Italian Americans not just immigrants .

Canardo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:38 am Boston had 640.000 people living in the city in '13. How's there gonna be almost half a million Italians amongst them 20 years earlier..?
-Canardo-

Cheech wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:37 am Welcome. Im from CT. I think its the close proximity to nyc

Canardo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:38 am

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:59 am

willychichi wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:50 pm

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:54 pm To be clear my question was, what cities had the 2nd and 3rd highest italian american population? 1st being New York, of course. Thanks

It's hard to say for sure Alex, the last census we have data from was taken in 1990 and at that time NYC had 1.8 million Italians followed by Boston, Philly and Chicago who all had about 490,000 Italians living in their respective cities, a lot can happen in 27 years. It was interesting to me and JCB probably knows this that Pittsburgh was number 5 at that time with about 380,000. Fort Lauderdale, Florida came in at #16 with 140,000 which was a surprise to me. Since that time people have flocked to the southern and western states to get out of the cold and find jobs so I'm sure the numbers are way down today from what they were in 1990.

Yes a lot can happen in 27 years, thank you for your post. Boston had that large of a population of italian americans? Someone like me (from europe) would think that irish are big in numbers there. Never thougt Boston would come at number two.

Boston had 640.000 people living in the city in '13. How's there gonna be almost half a million Italians amongst them 20 years earlier..?

-Canardo-

DoubleZ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:30 am Once I'm off mobile, I'll get more in depth, but both the 1963 and 1984 charts are missing influential and obvious members. At their height (50-60s), the Detroit had approx 100 made men. Let's not try and get into a tizzy about that number, but considering the scope of the Detroit LCNs operations and influence at that time, and having the fourth largest Italian-American population in America at the time, it's realistic.

For approx 40-50 members die and not be replaced at a time of high activity between '60 and '84 is hard to believe. Billy Giacalone was caught on tape complaining of losing members, but that was before a slew of making ceremonies in the 80s.

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:59 am

willychichi wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:50 pm

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:54 pm To be clear my question was, what cities had the 2nd and 3rd highest italian american population? 1st being New York, of course. Thanks

It's hard to say for sure Alex, the last census we have data from was taken in 1990 and at that time NYC had 1.8 million Italians followed by Boston, Philly and Chicago who all had about 490,000 Italians living in their respective cities, a lot can happen in 27 years. It was interesting to me and JCB probably knows this that Pittsburgh was number 5 at that time with about 380,000. Fort Lauderdale, Florida came in at #16 with 140,000 which was a surprise to me. Since that time people have flocked to the southern and western states to get out of the cold and find jobs so I'm sure the numbers are way down today from what they were in 1990.

Yes a lot can happen in 27 years, thank you for your post. Boston had that large of a population of italian americans? Someone like me (from europe) would think that irish are big in numbers there. Never thougt Boston would come at number two.

Cheech wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:45 am http://www.niaf.org/culture/statistics/ ... americans/

willychichi wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:50 pm

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:54 pm To be clear my question was, what cities had the 2nd and 3rd highest italian american population? 1st being New York, of course. Thanks

It's hard to say for sure Alex, the last census we have data from was taken in 1990 and at that time NYC had 1.8 million Italians followed by Boston, Philly and Chicago who all had about 490,000 Italians living in their respective cities, a lot can happen in 27 years. It was interesting to me and JCB probably knows this that Pittsburgh was number 5 at that time with about 380,000. Fort Lauderdale, Florida came in at #16 with 140,000 which was a surprise to me. Since that time people have flocked to the southern and western states to get out of the cold and find jobs so I'm sure the numbers are way down today from what they were in 1990.

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:54 pm To be clear my question was, what cities had the 2nd and 3rd highest italian american population? 1st being New York, of course. Thanks

DoubleZ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:44 pm

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:54 pm

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:52 pm

DoubleZ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:30 am Once I'm off mobile, I'll get more in depth, but both the 1963 and 1984 charts are missing influential and obvious members. At their height (50-60s), the Detroit had approx 100 made men. Let's not try and get into a tizzy about that number, but considering the scope of the Detroit LCNs operations and influence at that time, and having the fourth largest Italian-American population in America at the time, it's realistic.

For approx 40-50 members die and not be replaced at a time of high activity between '60 and '84 is hard to believe. Billy Giacalone was caught on tape complaining of losing members, but that was before a slew of making ceremonies in the 80s.

what was the 2nd and 3rd highest italian population?

To be clear my question was, what cities had the 2nd and 3rd highest italian american population? 1st being New York, of course. Thanks

Chicago and Philly

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:54 pm

AlexfromSouth wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:52 pm

DoubleZ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:30 am Once I'm off mobile, I'll get more in depth, but both the 1963 and 1984 charts are missing influential and obvious members. At their height (50-60s), the Detroit had approx 100 made men. Let's not try and get into a tizzy about that number, but considering the scope of the Detroit LCNs operations and influence at that time, and having the fourth largest Italian-American population in America at the time, it's realistic.

For approx 40-50 members die and not be replaced at a time of high activity between '60 and '84 is hard to believe. Billy Giacalone was caught on tape complaining of losing members, but that was before a slew of making ceremonies in the 80s.

what was the 2nd and 3rd highest italian population?

To be clear my question was, what cities had the 2nd and 3rd highest italian american population? 1st being New York, of course. Thanks