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Re: Researching the Mafia

by chin_gigante » Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:47 am

You might be able to. I've never been in person so I'm not sure how that would work. Worth looking into to see if it's possible.

Re: Researching the Mafia

by felice » Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:11 am

chin_gigante wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:11 am
felice wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:25 am I am having issues in getting trial documents via pacer/foipa.
Is it possible to go directly to federal tribunals and get physical access to all documets?

Thanks
You can contact each District Court independently to access documents, particularly trial transcripts. Even if you can't access the documents via PACER it's useful to take a note of the docket number if applicable. That will make things easier to locate. Though if you do contact the District Court directly it will be considerably more expensive to access documents than it would be to get them through PACER. If it's from an older case, you'll also potentially have to pay a large fee to retrieve the relevant documents from the archive.

Another annoying thing is that not all District Courts operate in the same way. Some you can contact via email, others only provide phone or FAX contact details. Accepted payment methods also vary. Some accept card payments over the phone, others require checks or money orders to be physically sent to the courthouse. It's quite a frustratingly antiquated system.
Damn. Thanks. I was thinking to go to NY and acceed to archives by myself under a special authorization. In Italy it works like that.

Re: Researching the Mafia

by chin_gigante » Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:11 am

felice wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:25 am I am having issues in getting trial documents via pacer/foipa.
Is it possible to go directly to federal tribunals and get physical access to all documets?

Thanks
You can contact each District Court independently to access documents, particularly trial transcripts. Even if you can't access the documents via PACER it's useful to take a note of the docket number if applicable. That will make things easier to locate. Though if you do contact the District Court directly it will be considerably more expensive to access documents than it would be to get them through PACER. If it's from an older case, you'll also potentially have to pay a large fee to retrieve the relevant documents from the archive.

Another annoying thing is that not all District Courts operate in the same way. Some you can contact via email, others only provide phone or FAX contact details. Accepted payment methods also vary. Some accept card payments over the phone, others require checks or money orders to be physically sent to the courthouse. It's quite a frustratingly antiquated system.

Re: Researching the Mafia

by felice » Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:25 am

I am having issues in getting trial documents via pacer/foipa.
Is it possible to go directly to federal tribunals and get physical access to all documets?

Thanks

Re: Researching the Mafia

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Re: Researching the Mafia

by motorfab » Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:37 am

They were also the target of a cyber attack yesterday. Bad news in both cases...

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Re: Researching the Mafia

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Re: Researching the Mafia

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Re: Researching the Mafia

by blackhander » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:06 am

These NY District Attorney Files are good for arrest dates, bondsmen and addresses.

https://nycrecords.access.preservica.co ... -of-cases/

Re: Researching the Mafia

by OmarSantista » Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:02 pm

Antiliar wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:32 pm
OmarSantista wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:46 pm If bonanno refused to go to the commission because 2 members were the messengers instead of three, what other instances known instances are there of that happening. I’ve never read or heard of that rule.
You might want to post your question in a different thread. This one focuses on resources for doing research.
Ah, got it

Re: Researching the Mafia

by Antiliar » Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:32 pm

OmarSantista wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:46 pm If bonanno refused to go to the commission because 2 members were the messengers instead of three, what other instances known instances are there of that happening. I’ve never read or heard of that rule.
You might want to post your question in a different thread. This one focuses on resources for doing research.

Re: Researching the Mafia

by OmarSantista » Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:46 pm

If bonanno refused to go to the commission because 2 members were the messengers instead of three, what other instances known instances are there of that happening. I’ve never read or heard of that rule.

Re: Researching the Mafia

by Tasker » Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:49 pm

chin_gigante wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:10 am
Tasker wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:06 am What types of court records are publicly available online? Are actual court transcripts accessible?

I saw a post one time describing what a mob defendant said in their sentencing hearing (federal trial). It wasn’t something you’d find on google, and I doubt they attended in person. I’ve always wondered where someone would find that type of detailed info. Is that was PACER is for?
A lot of court documents and transcripts get put up on PACER, where you can access them for a fee per page (there's also a charge for searching PACER). Not everything is available there though, especially for cases before the mid-2000s.

For documents and transcripts that aren't on PACER, you can request them from the courts themselves, but it's much more expensive to do so.
Thanks for the info.

Re: Researching the Mafia

by chin_gigante » Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:10 am

Tasker wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:06 am What types of court records are publicly available online? Are actual court transcripts accessible?

I saw a post one time describing what a mob defendant said in their sentencing hearing (federal trial). It wasn’t something you’d find on google, and I doubt they attended in person. I’ve always wondered where someone would find that type of detailed info. Is that was PACER is for?
A lot of court documents and transcripts get put up on PACER, where you can access them for a fee per page (there's also a charge for searching PACER). Not everything is available there though, especially for cases before the mid-2000s.

For documents and transcripts that aren't on PACER, you can request them from the courts themselves, but it's much more expensive to do so.

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