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Nice work, CC. Very, very nice - Mario Accent-

Thanks. I'm still working on the 2016 Five Families Chart, it'll take some time like I said. But I also want to create similar charts like that for 1910 and 1931. I may eventually do a chart like the above for the 1921-1923 war.

The blitz can be owed to time which I have more of for the time being.

Youre the master. I love that youre going on a chart blitz

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From the way Bonanno talks about it the family was behind Gagliano rather than just a faction of it.


Pogo

[quote="Chris Christie"]The Commission was formed in Sept of 1931 and Capone went away in Oct, who took up his seat?[/quote]
I should have realized this is something people may not wish to go into. I'll list Paul Ricca.

Working on the chart, it got thinking about the Gagliano faction. Has anyone ever looked into whether or not it was a renegade faction of the Reina family or the entire family? If it was the former, there might have been the other side of the coin- a Masseria-aligned Reina Family faction that carried on after Pinzola's murder while the Gagliano faction went under Maranzano. Given how Genovese and Lucchese networks have always been very close, sharing of territory, up until the 1970's the FBI had a difficult time separating their crews from each other. I'm sure there were Reina members (who's membership may go back to when Morello was boss and were) OK with Masseria-Morello and didn't condone the latter's murder. If they existed in sizable numbers enough to constitute a formal Reina family, they would have had to vacate in 1931 for Gagliano to become official boss.

Good question. People always say Frank Nitti, but was he considered "mafia" and allowed to attend Commission meetings? I think Ricca would've been more likely to have that connection.

The Commission was formed in Sept of 1931 and Capone went away in Oct, who took up his seat?

Aiello, Lombardo's underboss, appears to have broken away from Lombardo as a rival faction, while Lombardo was succeeded by Capone puppets. So the timeline is like this:

Lombardo, k 1928
Pasqualino Lolordo, k 1929
Giuseppe Giunta, k 1929 (both Lolordo and Giunta were at the 1928 Cleveland meeting; after Lolordo was killed his brother fled to New Jersey and became part of what was or became the Elizabeth Family)
then it looks like Aiello replaced Giunta or still maintained his own faction when he was killed in October 1930
so Salvatore "Toto" Lo Verde either directly succeeded Giunta or Aiello. Whichever the case, he lost his position when Al Capone was recognized by Maranzano as the Chicago boss, and Lo Verde was killed in November 1931.

Did Joe Aiello directly succeed Tony Lombardo in Chicago in 1928?

I think there's a possibility that Pinzolo was with the D'Aquila/Mineo group before Masseria placed him in the Reina group. Perhaps he assisted Mineo and Masseria in killing D'Aquila and replacing Reina was a reward.

Thanks for the correction. Don't understand why I confused the two.

It was the Reina group. According to Valachi the killer was Girolamo "Bobby Doyle" Santucci.


Pogo

Joseph Pinzolo was killed by members of his own gang right? That being the D'Aquila group? As Pinzolo was a Masseria appointment, whom the gang wasn't very fond of. My memory is bad in this instance, but were the actual triggermen ever revealed by either of the three who spoke most about the war, that being Joe Bonanno, Valachi & Nick Gentile?

There were some other deaths that happened after the C-War but may be related to it:

[b]Ernest Rossi[/b] (April 17, 1931) - Known as "Hoppy" and an alleged underling of Frankie Yale. Born in Naples.
[b]Saverio Pollaccia[/b] Masseria's consigliere who went to Chicago with Frankie Yale in 1924; disappeared 1932, Gentile says he and Vito Genovese brought him to Paul Ricca, who had him killed and buried the body somewhere. Sicilian.
[b]John Giustra[/b] (May 10, 1931) - Known as "Silk Stockings" because he dressed well. Left coat in Nuova Villa Tammaro restaurant, found when police discovered Masseria's body; close friend of Carmelo LiConti and allegedly Al Capone; possibly a capodecina in the D'Aquila/Mineo/Scalise/Mangano Family and superior of Ettore Zappi, later a Gambino caporegime. Calabrian.
[b]Carmelo LiConti[/b] (July 8, 1931) - Close friend of John Giustra and allegedly Al Capone, brother worked on the docks under Albert Anastasia. He was an undertaker. Calabrian.
[b]Gerardo Scarpato[/b] (September 10, 1932) - Owner of Nuova Villa Tammaro restaurant where Masseria was killed; asked police to take his fingerprints in case anything happened to him, then went into hiding for a year and killed almost exactly one year from Maranzano's assassination. Born near Naples.