THE BLACK HAND FORUM

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:06 pm The question is if and in what way the DeCavalcante family is subservient to the Gambino family. A good question for Mikie Scars.

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:21 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:53 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:40 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:21 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:06 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:56 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 pm Also, I think the DeCavs are doing pretty good and I don't think they "run under the f**king Gambinos" like Stango said. He was probably exaggerating.

I absolutely agree.

is there any thoughts on this?

I do not believe the DeCavs have lost autonomy and I do not believe they kick money up to the Gambino family.

I want to say Stango meant they are repped by the Gambino's on the Commisssion if it exists.

bc he uses the word "run" that doesnt sound like bein repped

I think it could've been a complaint to do with him losing a sitdown to the Gambinos, possibly over turf. "We run under the f**king Gambinos" sounds, to me, that they are an independent family but are getting shafted in territory disputes or union control or something like that.

is this before or after the gotti era? bc gotti making them re make guys can be seen as Gambinos trying to take over.

there was somewhere else that had examples of why so and so thought DeCavs were now under gambinos. but one thing is w the scars inter views we had if they were under binos he would have known about it for sure

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:53 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:40 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:21 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:06 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:56 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 pm Also, I think the DeCavs are doing pretty good and I don't think they "run under the f**king Gambinos" like Stango said. He was probably exaggerating.

I absolutely agree.

is there any thoughts on this?

I do not believe the DeCavs have lost autonomy and I do not believe they kick money up to the Gambino family.

I want to say Stango meant they are repped by the Gambino's on the Commisssion if it exists.

bc he uses the word "run" that doesnt sound like bein repped

I think it could've been a complaint to do with him losing a sitdown to the Gambinos, possibly over turf. "We run under the f**king Gambinos" sounds, to me, that they are an independent family but are getting shafted in territory disputes or union control or something like that.

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:40 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:21 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:06 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:56 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 pm Also, I think the DeCavs are doing pretty good and I don't think they "run under the f**king Gambinos" like Stango said. He was probably exaggerating.

I absolutely agree.

is there any thoughts on this?

I do not believe the DeCavs have lost autonomy and I do not believe they kick money up to the Gambino family.

I want to say Stango meant they are repped by the Gambino's on the Commisssion if it exists.

bc he uses the word "run" that doesnt sound like bein repped

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:21 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:06 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:56 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 pm Also, I think the DeCavs are doing pretty good and I don't think they "run under the f**king Gambinos" like Stango said. He was probably exaggerating.

I absolutely agree.

is there any thoughts on this?

I do not believe the DeCavs have lost autonomy and I do not believe they kick money up to the Gambino family.

I want to say Stango meant they are repped by the Gambino's on the Commisssion if it exists.

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:06 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:56 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 pm Also, I think the DeCavs are doing pretty good and I don't think they "run under the f**king Gambinos" like Stango said. He was probably exaggerating.

I absolutely agree.

is there any thoughts on this?

sdeitche wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:37 am

Chris Christie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:46 pm Hey Scott, quick question. Looking at some early NY members and they have some connections to Tampa. Here are a few surnames 1910-1915ish but do any ring a bell in the annals of Tampa Mob history?
Greco
Addio
Giglio
Rametta
Vicari

Thanks.

Greco for sure in general Tampa history. Dick Greco was a longtime Tampa mayor (not at all connected- good guy)

Giglio- For sure- Angelo Giglio was murdered in 1952 with Rene Nunez. He was related to the Trafficantes. Gambling figure

Chris Christie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:46 pm Hey Scott, quick question. Looking at some early NY members and they have some connections to Tampa. Here are a few surnames 1910-1915ish but do any ring a bell in the annals of Tampa Mob history?
Greco
Addio
Giglio
Rametta
Vicari

Thanks.

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:56 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 pm Also, I think the DeCavs are doing pretty good and I don't think they "run under the f**king Gambinos" like Stango said. He was probably exaggerating.

I absolutely agree.

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 pm Also, I think the DeCavs are doing pretty good and I don't think they "run under the f**king Gambinos" like Stango said. He was probably exaggerating.

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:22 pm we had a thread about who we thought it was i just cant find it.

a lot of ppl thought Milk was Gurraci

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:02 pm

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:25 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:48 pm DeCavs .

but yes lol he did

Oh yeah. But aren't the DeCavs a hell of a lot stronger than Patriarca and Philly?

i wouldn't say hell of a lot... but id say stronger then Pats... Philly seems to continue to thrive...

its up for debate whether decav is even there own fam now. last we hesrd the gambinos tried to absorb them...

whAtever came up w that indictment where "milk" was said to be boss. as well as a "horse" i believe.

then Gurraci died.... so idk. anyone have any updates?