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Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by Teflon john » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:54 am

With the shit music that is out nowadays even gangsters couldnt squeeze any money out of it,somebody does need to whack some of the ppl putting out this shit though.

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by JeremyTheJew » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:34 pm

OlBlueEyesClub wrote:Look at the current state of the music biz. As .B pointed out, you can record a passable record using a simple mic, and a laptap. Add in a few programs and a couple of effects, and you can literally make a hit record sitting at your computer. Money isn't made through album sales, therefore labels have little incentive to back an artist like they once did. In case you haven't noticed, take Hip-Hop for example, the only artists who get real label support are the independent artists who decided to sign a major contract with a major record company, the labels back them because they already had a fanbase prior to the big label coming along. Labels can make a lot more money off the touring , hit singles, radio play, itunes (and others like it) purchases, etc from those types of artists. I can't see any wiseguy, wanting to even deal with record labels these days. The market simply isn't the same. I think there is absolutely zero involvement or connections between the mafia & music industry. The only "gangsters" getting involved and sometimes profitting from the music biz, are the dealers who start up their own independent labels using drug money and recruiting artists and talent from within their neighborhoods and elsewhere.

I really think you are 100% correct.
In my experience at least.

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by JeremyTheJew » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:32 pm

This is my last two cents i will ever put out about this subject....

But after being involved on the MUSIC SIDE i see what everyone is talking about...

Its sad really... I feel the whole hip hop industry is straight up the new aged mafia...
After interviewing like.... 10 artists.... I was accused of being a informant and all crazy stuff... Stuff that was completely un founded and just crazy.... After that i realized there really is a underground secret organization going on...
And then, its gonna sound crazy, i actuslly started getting so paranoid bc i felt everyone was after me! Bc id do a interview that morning and by night the person didnt like me for whatever reason....

Anyways... Upon hearing all these stories of death and drugs and jusy pure sorrow... I came to the conclusion that it definitely wasnt the scene for me.... But it really made me think about lcn. Becaue the music business is almost as dangerous, if not worse then the drug game.

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by OlBlueEyesClub » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:08 pm

Look at the current state of the music biz. As .B pointed out, you can record a passable record using a simple mic, and a laptap. Add in a few programs and a couple of effects, and you can literally make a hit record sitting at your computer. Money isn't made through album sales, therefore labels have little incentive to back an artist like they once did. In case you haven't noticed, take Hip-Hop for example, the only artists who get real label support are the independent artists who decided to sign a major contract with a major record company, the labels back them because they already had a fanbase prior to the big label coming along. Labels can make a lot more money off the touring , hit singles, radio play, itunes (and others like it) purchases, etc from those types of artists. I can't see any wiseguy, wanting to even deal with record labels these days. The market simply isn't the same. I think there is absolutely zero involvement or connections between the mafia & music industry. The only "gangsters" getting involved and sometimes profitting from the music biz, are the dealers who start up their own independent labels using drug money and recruiting artists and talent from within their neighborhoods and elsewhere.

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by Pogo The Clown » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:41 am

If they only knew what Gotti really thought about them. :mrgreen:


Pogo

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by phatmatress777 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:52 pm

There's been more than a couple idiot rappers have taken on the name gotti and murder inc stuff like that ... Also lines from biggie recognize a real don when ya see awn ... 50 cent "just like Paulie in good fellas ya you can say I'm the boss" jay z " i never prayed to God I prayed to gotti " I think some rappers look back to the old days and glorify them


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Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by BillyBrizzi » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:26 pm

Capeci wrote about the friendship between P. Diddy and Gambino capo Andy Campos..

Here's the article: http://www.nysun.com/new-york/p-diddy-a ... ter/15539/

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by The Greek » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:36 pm

B. wrote:Recording and releasing music is also dirt cheap now... with a computer, basic knowledge, and a little bit of equipment you can get a "passable" sound and home record, then put it online. This is good because it's given the studios less control, but this has led to a completely oversaturated market of artists, most of whom are making sterile garbage.

It's given the labels less control. Studios never had any control but they're going the way of the dinosaur. You are right about most music being made on laptops.

To me nothing compares to those small studios from the 1950s / 60s who put out raw country, doo-wop, etc. Look at something like J.Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers "last Kiss"... it was a major hit because the song is so catchy, but it sounds like a bunch of teenagers recording in a shed with one beat-up microphone (probably wasn't far off from that). Today that would never pass, instead they record everything digitally, throw on auto-tune, and max the levels out so there are no dynamics.
Now those bunch of teenagers are recording in closets of apartments on cheap laptops making the most interesting music we have today

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by B. » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:50 pm

Recording and releasing music is also dirt cheap now... with a computer, basic knowledge, and a little bit of equipment you can get a "passable" sound and home record, then put it online. This is good because it's given the studios less control, but this has led to a completely oversaturated market of artists, most of whom are making sterile garbage.

To me nothing compares to those small studios from the 1950s / 60s who put out raw country, doo-wop, etc. Look at something like J.Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers "last Kiss"... it was a major hit because the song is so catchy, but it sounds like a bunch of teenagers recording in a shed with one beat-up microphone (probably wasn't far off from that). Today that would never pass, instead they record everything digitally, throw on auto-tune, and max the levels out so there are no dynamics.

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by The Greek » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:25 pm

Rocco wrote:
The Greek wrote:There is ZERO involvement of the mob in todays music business.

Yep and there is ZERO money in recording today. All of the money is made in performing now. No one buys music. Artists get a couple cents per down load if people pay ITunes for it. Rock star days are long gone.
Actually if you own the masters streaming pays incredibly well. Terrible for the writers and artists

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by Rocco » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:29 pm

The Greek wrote:There is ZERO involvement of the mob in todays music business.

Yep and there is ZERO money in recording today. All of the money is made in performing now. No one buys music. Artists get a couple cents per down load if people pay ITunes for it. Rock star days are long gone.

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by The Greek » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:14 pm

There is ZERO involvement of the mob in todays music business.

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by UTC » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:59 pm

Joe Isgro of course back then. How about Fratto with West Coast rap?

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by Wiseguy » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:22 am

NYNighthawk wrote:Tommy James of the Shondells fame wrote a great book about the Genovese family and Roulette Records.
Yeah, if you go back a ways there is certainly plenty of evidence of Mob involvement in the music industry. Especially the Genovese family. Jimmy Napoli, Morris Levy and Strawberry chain, payola scams, etc. But today? Not really.

Re: PRESENT DAY muisc and mafia connection

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:14 am

I hear Hesh is out of the Doo-Wop business and full time on his ponies now.

He and Ralphie run an insurance scam cooking them.

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