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Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by Stroccos » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:58 am

Five Felonies wrote:
Stroccos wrote:agree JCB , especally when Merlino is all over social media and sites like tmz. ITs a big fuck you to the goverment. Makes them look bad .
i just don't buy the idea that they're going to come at a guy like joey extra hard over petty stuff like instagram and cars, it just doesn't add up. granted, fbi agents are people like the rest of us so perhaps ego plays a small part but at the end of the day does anyone really believe they're going to devote more time, energy and resources to a guy over anything else besides the level of criminality they think he's involved in? we've seen a bunch of recent trials where guys got off who were most assuredly guilty, so i'd assume the focus is on making airtight cases and i just don't see how a guy driving a fancy car helps them achieve that.

Yes I do , they have long history of it ,
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Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by JCB1977 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:32 pm

His OC career is in serious jeopardy...he's barely been on the street since being boss...what's Borgesi up to these days? He earning?

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by JCB1977 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:30 pm

The minute he opened up that jerkoff restaurant as a Maitre'D the Feds were crawling all over it. He's a magnet for law enforcement and nobody will want to do business with him except a few morons.

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by SonnyBlackstein » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:13 pm

If anyone thinks the Feds don't take things personally, hold grudges, vendettas etc just look at Gotti Jnr.

Merlino enlarged the bullseye on his back by flaunting wealth.
There's a reason these guys are told to not flaunt their money, show off, fly under the radar etc. It's because it works. The Feds take flaunting dollars as a slap in the face and a direct challenge.

To say it doesn't make a difference is patently wrong in my opinion.

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by bobbybats » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:06 pm

There is a difference between the way merlino flaunts and the way Gotti did. The feds has a hard on for Gotti because he beat them 3 times at trial. That's a harder pill to swallow then Merlino flaunting around in a RR. Merlino hasn't beaten the feds like that, they just thinks hes a dumbass.

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by Five Felonies » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:26 pm

Stroccos wrote:agree JCB , especally when Merlino is all over social media and sites like tmz. ITs a big fuck you to the goverment. Makes them look bad .
i just don't buy the idea that they're going to come at a guy like joey extra hard over petty stuff like instagram and cars, it just doesn't add up. granted, fbi agents are people like the rest of us so perhaps ego plays a small part but at the end of the day does anyone really believe they're going to devote more time, energy and resources to a guy over anything else besides the level of criminality they think he's involved in? we've seen a bunch of recent trials where guys got off who were most assuredly guilty, so i'd assume the focus is on making airtight cases and i just don't see how a guy driving a fancy car helps them achieve that.

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by JCB1977 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:54 am

Bosses today can't hide, it's impossible...but the way they conduct themselves is within their control. And Joey is a prime example of "taunting" the Feds and being the center of attention. He created that persona since the 1990's. It has not served him well to say the least. I give him credit for doing his time and keeping his mouth shut...but how many more years can he do?

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by Stroccos » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:24 pm

JCB1977 wrote:
Five Felonies wrote:
JCB1977 wrote:Somebody mentioned he bought a new cadillac every few years...a caddy is quite different than driving around in a Rolls Royce.
i honestly don't think things like this make much of a difference at all. i doubt ligambi shows up to the dealership with a trunk full of cash and i think it's pretty obviously joey doesn't own that car. there's a real difference between being "low key" in terms of public appearances and being "low key" with the types of illegal activities you're involved in. i think law enforcement puts the same amount of effort into snagging joey whether he's driving a beat up civic and living in some crumby kensington dump or driving a rolls and living the good life in south florida.

again, different times. everyone knows about the mob, so the idea of these guys having to hide and pretend like they're produce vendors or some other silly title is beyond laughable. it's like the pro wrestlers in the old days who stayed in character all the time, beating up reporters and other dumb stunts to prove wrestling is "real", we all know better now.
No doubt...and I hear ya about Merlino driving a Rolls v Civic...however, by driving the Rolls, these agents get a bigger hard on for nailing the guy.
I agree JCB , especally when Merlino is all over social media and sites like tmz. ITs a big fuck you to the goverment. Makes them look bad .

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by OlBlueEyesClub » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:25 pm

Hey, hey , wrestling is damn real .

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by phatmatress777 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:03 pm

Good comparison ff


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Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by JCB1977 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:58 pm

Five Felonies wrote:
JCB1977 wrote:Somebody mentioned he bought a new cadillac every few years...a caddy is quite different than driving around in a Rolls Royce.
i honestly don't think things like this make much of a difference at all. i doubt ligambi shows up to the dealership with a trunk full of cash and i think it's pretty obviously joey doesn't own that car. there's a real difference between being "low key" in terms of public appearances and being "low key" with the types of illegal activities you're involved in. i think law enforcement puts the same amount of effort into snagging joey whether he's driving a beat up civic and living in some crumby kensington dump or driving a rolls and living the good life in south florida.

again, different times. everyone knows about the mob, so the idea of these guys having to hide and pretend like they're produce vendors or some other silly title is beyond laughable. it's like the pro wrestlers in the old days who stayed in character all the time, beating up reporters and other dumb stunts to prove wrestling is "real", we all know better now.
No doubt...and I hear ya about Merlino driving a Rolls v Civic...however, by driving the Rolls, these agents get a bigger hard on for nailing the guy.

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by Five Felonies » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:47 am

JCB1977 wrote:Somebody mentioned he bought a new cadillac every few years...a caddy is quite different than driving around in a Rolls Royce.
i honestly don't think things like this make much of a difference at all. i doubt ligambi shows up to the dealership with a trunk full of cash and i think it's pretty obviously joey doesn't own that car. there's a real difference between being "low key" in terms of public appearances and being "low key" with the types of illegal activities you're involved in. i think law enforcement puts the same amount of effort into snagging joey whether he's driving a beat up civic and living in some crumby kensington dump or driving a rolls and living the good life in south florida.

again, different times. everyone knows about the mob, so the idea of these guys having to hide and pretend like they're produce vendors or some other silly title is beyond laughable. it's like the pro wrestlers in the old days who stayed in character all the time, beating up reporters and other dumb stunts to prove wrestling is "real", we all know better now.

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by JCB1977 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:42 am

Chucky wrote:I mean, I'll agree in the sense that he was more low key than Merlino, but Ligambi did little to hide his status in South Philly or over the bridge, he was pretty out there. There was also less heat on them after the Merlino trial was blown and the feds put the guys on the street on the backburner until the delaware county thing. Less murders helped too, but that was more out of self-preservation than a calculated move by Ligambi to be the low.
I could understand that. Obviously Chucky you know more than I do. I don't live in Philly nor have a connection to anybody there except my cousin who is a Philly cop with the state (which saddens me to admit, but he's a good shit). Like many, I depend on what I read from the Feds, local LE and a few conversations I have had with my cousin as well as Anastasia. And I won't pretend to have intimate knowledge on Philly. The only personal knowledge I have on Philly is John Stanfa and that's because Stanfa used a Youngstown guy (Vic Calautti) to launder a boatload full of money to a Swiss bank. My family knew the guy very well and Stanfa used to come into Youngstown with Billy D'Elia and Mike Genovese. Their meetings were filmed by the Feds in a building that was owned my grandfather. They also had a waste hauling scheme that went from NYC to Scranton to Youngstown that was overseen by Billy D'Elia and Jimmy Prato/Joey Naples. The only other Philly connection I know for certain was Pittsburgh bookmaker Joe Nistico, who was Nicky Scarfo's brother in law. Joe was from Clairton, PA and he was squeezed when Mike Genovese became the new boss in 1985. Joe went complaining to Scarfo and Scarfo and Phil Leonetti came to Pittsburgh and met with Chucky Porter, Louis Volpe, Joe Sica and Lou Raucci at a Monroeville hotel that was surveilled by SA Roger Greenbank and used at Chucky Porter's trial where Phil Leonetti was one of the key witnesses against him.

While I understand Ligambi was "out there" and everybody is South Philly knew who he was, my point was that he did not attract the attention that Merlino did. Somebody mentioned he bought a new cadillac every few years...a caddy is quite different than driving around in a Rolls Royce. Maybe it was luck, but the bottom line was that things were "a little quieter" while Ligambi held the fort down as opposed to Merlino. You've asked me about my disdain for Merlino and it is simply that I can't respect a guy who nationally advertises who he is and draws attention to not just himself, but everybody else. I felt the same way about Gotti, Capone, Giancana, Anthony Dinunzio among many others. And since I depend on the Feds and Anastasia for info on Philly, the articles I pasted earlier in this thread are pretty adamant that Ligambi was "low key."

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by Chucky » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:53 am

I mean, I'll agree in the sense that he was more low key than Merlino, but Ligambi did little to hide his status in South Philly or over the bridge, he was pretty out there. There was also less heat on them after the Merlino trial was blown and the feds put the guys on the street on the backburner until the delaware county thing. Less murders helped too, but that was more out of self-preservation than a calculated move by Ligambi to be the low.

Re: News video: PA casinos looking to ban Merlino

by JCB1977 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:16 pm

Chucky wrote:Those articles are a decade old, and Anastasia has been wrong on a lot, particularly on Natale and Stanfa, this is nothing new.
I hear ya, but the Feds even said he was low key when he needed to be...I gotta believe that based of lack of anything serious coming from his reign, that's all I'm saying.

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