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[quote="willychichi"]Member And Associates Of The Lucchese Crime Family Plead Guilty To Extortion Conspiracy

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/member-and-associates-lucchese-crime-family-plead-guilty-extortion-conspiracy[/quote]
Yeah, definitely looks like the feds grabbed this from the tapes and ran with it.
At one point, this Giustra was being played by 3 CW's. Nicky Skins, Reynold Maragni (arrested on "Mafia Takedown Day in 2011" and flipped immediately) and the Smurf guy Charlie Hughes. (arrested in 2009 for being a chomo and flipped to save his ass).
This guy couldn't rub two nickels together and he had 3 rats recording him. One worse than the next. Why?

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Member And Associates Of The Lucchese Crime Family Plead Guilty To Extortion Conspiracy

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/member-and-associates-lucchese-crime-family-plead-guilty-extortion-conspiracy

Yeah, I'm fairly sure you're on the mark, Rocco. There were 500 days taped in that case. And Giustra and the rat were out on long Island trying to buy or partner in, smaller companies. Giustra didn't seem like the rat type at all.

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http://fernichlaw.com/do-not-enter-or-modify-or-erase/client-uploads/Persico_Oct_31_14.html

more on Giustra here.

Possible Giustra didn't cooperate and the shake down of the Giustra could have been bugged by accident during the PapaSmurf Garbage investigation for which Giustra was set up by Hughes who was the rat in that case. Hughes tried countless times to sucker Giustra into bogus FBI rackets to bust him. I think this is more then likely what happened. Giustra had a Trucking co that folded. Prior to it folding Avellino could have lent him $100k for the biz etc. Just my two cents.

Pic of the unlucky fella right here http://newjersey.arrests.org/Arrests/Charles_Giustra_22940792/

and here http://nypost.com/2013/01/17/feds-snare-30-in-mob-garbage-sting/

[quote="Garbageman"]Says in this article, the loan was given to Charles Giustra. He's been locked up in the feds since 2014...so how did this all come to be, I wonder? Did Giustra rat?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/mobster-threatened-associate-100g-loan-face-jury-article-1.2737485

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only way they could bust someone on loansharking is if the victim cooperates.

Says in this article, the loan was given to Charles Giustra. He's been locked up in the feds since 2014...so how did this all come to be, I wonder? Did Giustra rat?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/mobster-threatened-associate-100g-loan-face-jury-article-1.2737485

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[quote="Rocco"][quote="Garbageman"]So... Did he ever get his money, I wonder?

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Probably not if the victim called the feds on him. Borrower $100k from Luchese mobster. calle the feds keep the $$$. Sounds like a good investment to me? Easiest $100k that guy ever made I am sure ! lol[/quote]
It's like throwing a cartoon of Muhammad fucking a goat into a mosque then wait outside for angry Muslims to arrive.... Shooting fish in a barrel, I believe they call it =P

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[quote="Garbageman"]So... Did he ever get his money, I wonder?

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Probably not if the victim called the feds on him. Borrower $100k from Luchese mobster. calle the feds keep the $$$. Sounds like a good investment to me? Easiest $100k that guy ever made I am sure ! lol

[quote="Cheech"]Why isnt Avellino the victim?[/quote]
Because that wouldn't make for a nice feather in someone's cap.

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Why isnt Avellino the victim?

Rule number 1: Get the money
Rule number 2: Always get the money
Rule number 3: Don't forget, to always remember, to get the money.

So... Did he ever get his money, I wonder?

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Mobster accused of making threats over $100G loan takes 33-month plea deal

A longtime Luchese capo who had insisted on going to trial this month on extortion charges, chickened out Friday and copped a plea deal.

Reputed mobster Carmine Avellino's indecision will cost him, though. He loses one point of credit for not taking the deal sooner which means he will face about four months extra behind bars under the sentencing guidelines.

Avellino, 72, admitted that he conspired with two other goons, Daniel and Michael Capra, to threaten a deadbeat who owed him $100,000. They used "an implied threat of violence based on reputation" to put a scare in the victim, Avellino told Brooklyn Magistrate Judge Marilyn Go.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/mobster-accused-making-threats-100g-loan-takes-plea-deal-article-1.2749178