by B. » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:44 pm
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:25 am
B. wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:46 pm
An example of a potentially similar situation to Galante was Joe Magliocco.
We've learned that Magliocco was never the official boss, as he didn't have full support from within his family and was not confirmed by the Commission. I'm not sure if he was selected by family leaders to serve as provisional boss or if he put himself in the position given that he was the family underboss, but he was called out by the Commission before his death of natural causes. It seems he was a less assertive/threatening figure than Galante, so that may have been why he wasn't killed despite drawing the ire of other families.
Really!? I didn't know that. He was ID'd as such by the McClellan Commission and both Bonannos and I never questioned it. I don't have to ask you for your sources, if you're saying it I know it's from a solid source. But I will say that it just goes to show yet another example of the way information filters downward and gets muddled. Drawing back to the Galante/Boss argument, Pistone claimed Ruggiero ID'd Galante as Boss and Vitale claims the opposite. Couldn't that have to do with the factions they were in? If Ruggiero came up in a pro-Galante faction it stands reason he would be told one thing whereas Vitale who came up in a pro-Rastelli faction say something different.
Yeah, the Galante vs. Rastelli factions recognizing different bosses is what I go into in the original post above. It looks like Rastelli was officially recognized by the Commission and had support from a group of loyalists, but that most of the family leaders either supported Galante as THE boss or were too passive to protest.
The Bonannos were actually one of the reasons Magliocco was mistaken as an official boss. They seem to have propped him up because they knew they could count on him for support and manipulate him. Magaddino discusses a Commission meeting where Magliocco was called on the carpet and admitted to conspiring with Joe Bonanno against Lucchese and Gambino. Magaddino also talked about Magliocco not having Commission approval as boss, which is an important part of the process. Even Carlo Gambino was said to have been a provisional boss for some time before eventually being confirmed. I believe there was a group within the Colombo faction led by Charles LoCicero who were protesting Magliocco's legitimacy as boss, too.
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An example of a potentially similar situation to Galante was Joe Magliocco. [b]We've learned that Magliocco was never the official boss[/b], as he didn't have full support from within his family and was not confirmed by the Commission. I'm not sure if he was selected by family leaders to serve as provisional boss or if he put himself in the position given that he was the family underboss, but he was called out by the Commission before his death of natural causes. It seems he was a less assertive/threatening figure than Galante, so that may have been why he wasn't killed despite drawing the ire of other families.
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Really!? I didn't know that. He was ID'd as such by the McClellan Commission and both Bonannos and I never questioned it. I don't have to ask you for your sources, if you're saying it I know it's from a solid source. But I will say that it just goes to show yet another example of the way information filters downward and gets muddled. Drawing back to the Galante/Boss argument, Pistone claimed Ruggiero ID'd Galante as Boss and Vitale claims the opposite. Couldn't that have to do with the factions they were in? If Ruggiero came up in a pro-Galante faction it stands reason he would be told one thing whereas Vitale who came up in a pro-Rastelli faction say something different.
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Yeah, the Galante vs. Rastelli factions recognizing different bosses is what I go into in the original post above. It looks like Rastelli was officially recognized by the Commission and had support from a group of loyalists, but that most of the family leaders either supported Galante as THE boss or were too passive to protest.
The Bonannos were actually one of the reasons Magliocco was mistaken as an official boss. They seem to have propped him up because they knew they could count on him for support and manipulate him. Magaddino discusses a Commission meeting where Magliocco was called on the carpet and admitted to conspiring with Joe Bonanno against Lucchese and Gambino. Magaddino also talked about Magliocco not having Commission approval as boss, which is an important part of the process. Even Carlo Gambino was said to have been a provisional boss for some time before eventually being confirmed. I believe there was a group within the Colombo faction led by Charles LoCicero who were protesting Magliocco's legitimacy as boss, too.