THE BLACK HAND FORUM

[quote="BobbyPazzo"][quote="Hailbritain"]The knight of Malta[/quote]
I know he didn't start it but the ponte fàmily was for real. I grew up with his nephews. I've met the man many times. He's the real deal. Lives in a mansion in Alpine. They can't deal in garbage anymore but they own half of lower Manhattan, have the restaurants, and own all American recycling and recycle paperboard. Serious money in that family.[/quote]
When I got the discovery for my case from the feds, I spent over 2 months listening to all 500 plus days of recordings. I had to buy a 500 gig external hard drive to fit them all on. Anyway, one day, as I'm driving my garbage truck and listening to the tapes, I hear the child molester rat's handlers begin the tape with the usual intro... "this is agent so and so" gives the time and date and says he's about to send the cooperating witness into All American Paper Recycling and possibly be meeting with the Pontes. I was sitting there stunned. Why? I'm thinking. Long story short, he was in the sons office for around an hour. The feds & the BIC were investigating cardboard theft in NYC. The management Sent him on his way after they explained to him that they don't service customers in the 5 boros, have a nice day.
3 more tapes has similar efforts, with different garbage companies in the NY Metro area, all resulting in nothing. I'm sure he was furious he couldn't make any cases for his efforts. He had 10-20 years hanging over his head as incentive. Prick

For those here who don't know, the lone rat in that case was a guy the feds caught trying to have sex with underage little girls. He lives among us now a free man and is not required to register himself with the Township under Megan's Law.

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[quote="InCamelot"]Waste management. You know, environment.[/quote]

Dr Cusamano, besides being your family physician, is also your next door neighbor. See what I'm saying?

Waste management. You know, environment.

NO MORE FIRES

After five years. The cops are finally leaving garbage alone. A drug bust on one of those routes is different story, you got the FBI, the DEA, all those fucking pricks are gonna be breathing down our necks again.


Pogo

Hey garbage is our bread and butter.

Fuckin' garbage business. It's all changing.

The Kolar brothers, some kind of Czechoslovakian immigrants. These Polacks, they'll haul paper, plastic and aluminum for 7, 000 a month less than Dick.
He says if he can tell commie bosses in Czechoslovakia to go fuck themselves, he can fuckin' tell us.


Pogo

[quote="Hailbritain"]The knight of Malta[/quote]
I know he didn't start it but the ponte fàmily was for real. I grew up with his nephews. I've met the man many times. He's the real deal. Lives in a mansion in Alpine. They can't deal in garbage anymore but they own half of lower Manhattan, have the restaurants, and own all American recycling and recycle paperboard. Serious money in that family.

[quote="johnny_scootch"][quote="Wiseguy"] They were said to be the family that "more or less invented labor racketeering."[/quote]

I believe Jewish gangsters were the true pioneers of the labor rackets.[/quote]

Yes and it was the Genovese family, who had the closest ties to Jewish mobsters, that capitalized and expanded on it. We can see Genovese union in involvement at least as early as 1922 with Lanza and the Seafood Workers Union.

[quote="Wiseguy"] They were said to be the family that "more or less invented labor racketeering."[/quote]

I believe Jewish gangsters were the true pioneers of the labor rackets.

It wouldn't necessarily surprise me if the Genovese were the first. They were said to be the family that "more or less invented labor racketeering."

[quote="Hailbritain"][quote="HairyKnuckles"]One of the earliest Mafia members to be in the garbage waste hauling industry was Genovese member, Yonkers based Nick Rattenni. He started out already in 1949 when the Yonker´s city council was plagued by a fiscal crisis which ended the santitation service for commercial and industrial enterprises. Rattenni started two firms and moved in and made sure he had almost total monopoly in the waste hauling industry in Yonkers. It was said that Rattenni, by time, controlled 90 percent of the private garbage hauling operations up there, not only through his own companies but throgh his secret involvement with the smaller carters too. He must have made a fortune hauling garbage![/quote]
Interesting HK , I would have thought gambino and lucchese would have been the first , surely patsy conte was into that way back also[/quote]
Sorry , I meant failla not conte

The furthest back I can recall as far as control in 5 boros was Squillante, then Jimmy Failla, then Joe Francolino

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The knight of Malta