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Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by Doobeez » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:31 pm

thank you, and I wasn't trying to open up a can of worms/derail the thread which is a good discussion..

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by B. » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:45 pm

Let's not get into that all-too-common rabbit hole. There are plenty of topics on it (any Montreal topic spirals into it, really) and there is nothing definitive.

In 1991, which this topic is about, the Montreal crew was semi-autonomous just like it had been under Cotroni, but they were still firmly affiliated with NY, with their captain Sciascia living in NYC and high-ranking NY members Vitale and Lino visiting Montreal that year.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by Doobeez » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:23 pm

Doobeez wrote:
toto wrote:There was no breakaway.

Ok...how about when the ties were severed.

Better still, what would be the correct description for it? thanks.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by Doobeez » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:21 pm

toto wrote:There was no breakaway.

Ok...how about when the ties were severed.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by toto » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:07 pm

There was no breakaway.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by Doobeez » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:36 am

B. wrote:It's no coincidence that he was the original Montreal captain.

This really puts into perspective not only the Bonanno's long standing ties up there, but the significance of their breakaway several years ago.

Good stuff, B.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by B. » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:13 am

Montreal was the heart of a massive drug trafficking network since at least the 1950s. The Cotronis had a significant international presence through this.

Galante, as a major heroin trafficker, no doubt was an influential part of this network. It's no coincidence that he was the original Montreal captain.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:57 pm

Before he went away when the controni/violi were running things i was under thr inpression that they were doing more "normal" lcn activity like extortions, etc. Rather then when the ruzzutos took over and they became a major drug hub.

Was canada always a big drug trafficking place? I never really thought about hiw galante would go up there so maybe they wrrew always into the drugs... I just thought the rizzutos made it what it is

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Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by Doobeez » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:03 pm

Before he went away, would it be fair to say that Galante was more involved in interests up north as opposed to across the pond?

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by B. » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:50 pm

jimmyb wrote:
JeremyTheJew wrote:So was he ever in admin position like we were previously saying? Thats interesting about him being demoted to get out of the grans jury... I would have thought they would have given his spot back

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I suspect Joe Buccellato was one of the main liaisons between Brooklyn and CDG. We always hear about Galante, but Joe Buccellato traveled back and forth more often. When JB reached out to CDG for help in the Bananas War, I would think Joe Buccellato was one of the guys communicated with the Sicilians. Peter Magaddino would have reached out to his brother Gaspare, but Ronsisvalle specifically testified that it was "the Buccellatos" who JB worked with. And don't forget Giovanni Bonventre was in CDG at the time. He was arrested, along with Nino Buccellato in 1971. So imo there were guys other than (or in addition to) Galante operating the bridge between NY and Sicily.
There's no evidence I've come across that Galante had any direct contact with Sicily after his release from prison. Seems likely that he sent messages and communicated overseas, but I think he gets too much credit for "recruiting the zips" and establishing those ties during that period. Seems more likely that he tapped into a channel that already existed, which naturally continued to exist after his death.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by jimmyb » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:22 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote:So was he ever in admin position like we were previously saying? Thats interesting about him being demoted to get out of the grans jury... I would have thought they would have given his spot back

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I suspect Joe Buccellato was one of the main liaisons between Brooklyn and CDG. We always hear about Galante, but Joe Buccellato traveled back and forth more often. When JB reached out to CDG for help in the Bananas War, I would think Joe Buccellato was one of the guys communicated with the Sicilians. Peter Magaddino would have reached out to his brother Gaspare, but Ronsisvalle specifically testified that it was "the Buccellatos" who JB worked with. And don't forget Giovanni Bonventre was in CDG at the time. He was arrested, along with Nino Buccellato in 1971. So imo there were guys other than (or in addition to) Galante operating the bridge between NY and Sicily.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by JeremyTheJew » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:41 am

So was he ever in admin position like we were previously saying? Thats interesting about him being demoted to get out of the grans jury... I would have thought they would have given his spot back

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Re: RE: Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by jimmyb » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:21 am

JeremyTheJew wrote:
JeremyTheJew wrote:No. Actually probaly before cesar buccelato would have been probably?

Same buccelato clan as in detroit and as Jimmyb

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*before cesar was capo, was bucellato capo of knickerbocker.

That is what i was trying to say. A lot od my posts i do at work hence the bad spelling n errors

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Yes, same family. If you look at the family chart in my book, you'll see the five Buccellato brothers at the top (Giuseppe, Giovanni, Salvatore, Pietro, and Vincenzo). Giuseppe's grandson was the Joe Buccellato in Bonanno org. He was a captain but fled to Italy to avoid grand jury investigation. So when he returned he was demoted to soldier.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by Doobeez » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:23 pm

Great info guys, and thanks for clearing things up. That Zaffarano crew was a freaking powerhouse.

Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:02 pm

Yeah Bonventre took over for Lupo. JD has Bonventre and Attanasio as being with the Zaffarano Crew in the late 70s. So it looks like the Lupo Crew, if they did not break off, took over part of the Zaffarano Crew.


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