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Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by JakeTheSnake630 » Thu May 15, 2025 5:50 am

B. wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 12:00 pm
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 5:16 am
B. wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 9:05 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 7:05 am
Camo wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 10:50 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 5:41 am Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos :lol: But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?
Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?
Pretty sure the guys Ray Sr made went to the Springfield faction of the Genovese. I forget if Nicky Bianco was made by Ray and transferred to the Columbus briefly, vice versa, or if he was just sent as peace broker during the Gallo wars. Also if I am not mistaken Henry Tamello was a Bonanno before he came to the Patriarcas. I could be mistaken though.
I made a thread a while back about the rumor that Tameleo was originally a Bonanno member and could find no substance to support it or where that idea originally comes from: viewtopic.php?t=9371

The thread also goes into other NE transfers, etc.
Thanks B. Also, I know Double Deal podcast has been mentioned on here, by far the best NE OC podcast out there. They dropped a short Bianco episode the other day where they say Bianco was either made by the Colombos in 57' before Appalachian or by Ray in 62'. They thought the Colombo story was more believable because the books were still open then and were supposed to be closed after Appalachian.
I don't know who does Double Deal but we know for a fact that Bianco was made in a 1963 ceremony in an NYC restaurant and that Patriarca and Tameleo visited NYC to officiate. They received special permission from the Commission to induct him as it was felt Bianco could help mediate the Gallo conflict and he was a NE member between 1963 and 1965 then transferred to the Colombos in 1965 until 1973 when he transferred back to NE.

We have sources like Scarpa who can confirm all this. If you're in touch with Double Deal you can tell them this is all available in FBI files.
I can reach out as I message them from time to time. I do know that almost all of there info is based on FBI and LE documents other than some of the first hand stuff about one of the hosts father. They have a great show that I recommend to anyone interested in NE stuff. It's a little different than other shows because it's two women who run it. So there's no tough guy ego stuff, agendas or biases, and can be a little dry but I love their podcast.I wonder if they missed that Scarpa insight because the files they were looking at were from NE sources and not NY sources? Who knows.

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by B. » Wed May 14, 2025 12:00 pm

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 5:16 am
B. wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 9:05 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 7:05 am
Camo wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 10:50 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 5:41 am Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos :lol: But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?
Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?
Pretty sure the guys Ray Sr made went to the Springfield faction of the Genovese. I forget if Nicky Bianco was made by Ray and transferred to the Columbus briefly, vice versa, or if he was just sent as peace broker during the Gallo wars. Also if I am not mistaken Henry Tamello was a Bonanno before he came to the Patriarcas. I could be mistaken though.
I made a thread a while back about the rumor that Tameleo was originally a Bonanno member and could find no substance to support it or where that idea originally comes from: viewtopic.php?t=9371

The thread also goes into other NE transfers, etc.
Thanks B. Also, I know Double Deal podcast has been mentioned on here, by far the best NE OC podcast out there. They dropped a short Bianco episode the other day where they say Bianco was either made by the Colombos in 57' before Appalachian or by Ray in 62'. They thought the Colombo story was more believable because the books were still open then and were supposed to be closed after Appalachian.
I don't know who does Double Deal but we know for a fact that Bianco was made in a 1963 ceremony in an NYC restaurant and that Patriarca and Tameleo visited NYC to officiate. They received special permission from the Commission to induct him as it was felt Bianco could help mediate the Gallo conflict and he was a NE member between 1963 and 1965 then transferred to the Colombos in 1965 until 1973 when he transferred back to NE.

We have sources like Scarpa who can confirm all this. If you're in touch with Double Deal you can tell them this is all available in FBI files.

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by Etna » Wed May 14, 2025 10:52 am

On IG i believe theres a post showing Anthony Guzzo greeting Vito as he exits prison.

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by JakeTheSnake630 » Wed May 14, 2025 5:16 am

B. wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 9:05 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 7:05 am
Camo wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 10:50 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 5:41 am Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos :lol: But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?
Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?
Pretty sure the guys Ray Sr made went to the Springfield faction of the Genovese. I forget if Nicky Bianco was made by Ray and transferred to the Columbus briefly, vice versa, or if he was just sent as peace broker during the Gallo wars. Also if I am not mistaken Henry Tamello was a Bonanno before he came to the Patriarcas. I could be mistaken though.
I made a thread a while back about the rumor that Tameleo was originally a Bonanno member and could find no substance to support it or where that idea originally comes from: viewtopic.php?t=9371

The thread also goes into other NE transfers, etc.
Thanks B. Also, I know Double Deal podcast has been mentioned on here, by far the best NE OC podcast out there. They dropped a short Bianco episode the other day where they say Bianco was either made by the Colombos in 57' before Appalachian or by Ray in 62'. They thought the Colombo story was more believable because the books were still open then and were supposed to be closed after Appalachian.

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by B. » Tue May 13, 2025 9:05 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 7:05 am
Camo wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 10:50 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 5:41 am Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos :lol: But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?
Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?
Pretty sure the guys Ray Sr made went to the Springfield faction of the Genovese. I forget if Nicky Bianco was made by Ray and transferred to the Columbus briefly, vice versa, or if he was just sent as peace broker during the Gallo wars. Also if I am not mistaken Henry Tamello was a Bonanno before he came to the Patriarcas. I could be mistaken though.
I made a thread a while back about the rumor that Tameleo was originally a Bonanno member and could find no substance to support it or where that idea originally comes from: viewtopic.php?t=9371

The thread also goes into other NE transfers, etc.

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by JakeTheSnake630 » Tue May 13, 2025 7:05 am

Camo wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 10:50 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 5:41 am Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos :lol: But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?
Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?
Pretty sure the guys Ray Sr made went to the Springfield faction of the Genovese. I forget if Nicky Bianco was made by Ray and transferred to the Columbus briefly, vice versa, or if he was just sent as peace broker during the Gallo wars. Also if I am not mistaken Henry Tamello was a Bonanno before he came to the Patriarcas. I could be mistaken though.

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by Pmac2 » Mon May 12, 2025 6:25 pm

ray Sr made abunch of guys in worcester in 1956. he did it as a favor to the capo going to jail and in a rush to make his crew. and a few of the Springfield guys. they list the guys. carlo,pinky and a few scibellis. Ray makes them and releases them to the genovese family .also this is 56 Costello is in charge was he making guys. Ray was caught on tape giving anguilo the whole breakdown

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by scott22 » Mon May 12, 2025 2:48 pm

MoLarryCurly,

Yes . Yes they do .

Not a fan ?

Scott

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by scott22 » Mon May 12, 2025 2:47 pm

Rush Street,
Appreciate the kind words and support.
Scott

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by Pogo The Clown » Mon May 12, 2025 11:01 am

Camo wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 10:50 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 5:41 am Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos :lol: But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?
Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?

If I’m not mistaken it was the Bufalinos who made Persico.


Pogo

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by RushStreet » Mon May 12, 2025 10:59 am

scott22 wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 10:25 am Rush street ,

I thought we were not scabbing anymore and just posting a synopsis? Help me out a little here buddy ,

Scott
All due respect Scott but I posted the entire piece this time around because I had to. We have a few trolls on here that like to bash you and I firmly believe that the post needed to be shared because it does you justice. Its well written and after this one I will not be posting further articles. All the best to you and thank you for being who you are. A great mob insider who in my opinion is the best in the business.

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by Camo » Mon May 12, 2025 10:50 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 5:41 am Didn't Patriarca make some guys and immediately transfer them to the Genovese? Pretty Sure I read that somewhere. Also, don't forget Anthony Raimondi promises he was made by the Bonnanos and then transferred to the Colombos :lol: But if the Ray Patriarca thing is true that would be precedent for transferring made guys no? What about Neil Migliore? Was he made by the the Buffalino's and transferred?
Wasn't it Allie Persico Sr. the Patriarca's did this with as a favour to Carmine?

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by MoLarryCurly » Mon May 12, 2025 10:44 am

scott22 wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 10:25 am Rush street ,

I thought we were not scabbing anymore and just posting a synopsis? Help me out a little here buddy ,

Scott
Why people actually pay for your nonsense?

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by scott22 » Mon May 12, 2025 10:25 am

Rush street ,

I thought we were not scabbing anymore and just posting a synopsis? Help me out a little here buddy ,

Scott

Re: Vito Guzzo, Jr. Being Recruited Hard By Mancuso.

by RushStreet » Mon May 12, 2025 10:08 am

“Bruno” Indelicato, 78, received a bump-up to consigliere by Mancuso in 2024 as part of an organizational revamp in the Bonannos engineered to stabilize a shaky ship stemming from remaining fallout from a failed Brooklyn-faction insurgence in the late 2010s that shook the family to the core, sources allege. The move to reshuffle the deck by Mancuso and let bygones be bygones has paid quick dividends, solidifying the Bonannos’ rank-and-file and earning Mancuso kudos from fellow NYC dons, per multiple sources on both sides of the law. Three of these sources report that in recent weeks, Indelicato has relayed message to Mancuso to “pump the breaks” in his rush to bring Guzzo, Jr. into an already fragile mix in the Bonannos and take some added time to “let the situation breathe.”

It’s unclear how Mikey Nose responded to the advice, but Indelicato was sure to promise to respect any decision Mancuso makes in relation to Guzzo, Jr. and added that he wouldn’t try to block Guzzo Jr.’s potential transfer into the Mancuso regime if that’s what Mancuso deemed best for the Bonanno family as a whole. Originally from Little Italy, the incredibly-connected, now more-level headed Indelicato reportedly holds territory in all the boroughs of NYC these days and is residing in a number of different properties split between Queens, Manhattan, Westchester County and Long Island. He’s spending an increasingly amount of time in Guzzo, Jr.’s old Middle Village stomping grounds, according to sources. Mancuso and Indelicato each held reputations as cowboys in their respective mob youths, both boasting two murder convictions apiece and legacy-caliber street lore surrounding their names dating back to the 1970s.

Guzzo’s Jr.’s older brother, Anthony, also a convicted murderer with heavy prison time under his belt, has a button from the Lucchese mob. The Luccheses and the Gambinos have expressed interest in securing Guzzo, Jr.’s services, too, if his made status is back on the table and the Colombos are willing to part ways with him, according to sources. Wherever he lands, even if its back with the Colombos, the consensus among NYC mob shot callers seems to be that Guzzo, Jr. will have to go through another making ceremony on the outside. Talk in the Bonannos and Luccheses right now is that Guzzo, Jr. would be remade and then immediately promoted to a capo position.

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