by Camo » Wed May 07, 2025 2:23 pm
Aunt+Baby wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 2:08 pm
Camo wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 1:42 pm
Aunt+Baby wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 1:29 pm
Camo wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 12:59 pm
How accurate is Nicholas Pillegi's Casino? I'm aware it's not regarding Spilotro's murder but is his time in Vegas generally accurate or what? I've seen the movie obviously but i've never read the book and i'm considering doing so if it's at least somewhat accurate. Is Frank Cullota his source or is it purely newspaper articles or what?
That movie sucked. It featured all east coast actors and not one Chicagoan such as Farina, Madsen, Montagna etc. the only one who even attempted a Chicago accent was pesci, and even that was half assed
As far as accuracy goes,no it wasn’t accurate. They couldn’t even mention Chicago outright, and that LV story in general isn’t all that interesting. The real meat on the bone & intrigue was occurring in Chicago obviously.
Also we know now that Phil Ponto was perhaps the most important straightened out guy in LV for the outfit
I'm asking about the book which i believe used the real names and mentioned Chicago. Again i haven't read it but i'm under the impression it's very different to the movie, Scoresese says his movies were "inspired by" Pileggi's books rather than based on which is why he changed the names and elements of the story.
Unless your second and third paragraphs are referring to the book and i've misinterpreted you in which case thanks for the information?
My apologies. I haven’t read the book either. However, with only having the film to go off of, I can only assume that the book was as trash as the film, considering one was based upon the other.
Again though it wasn't based on it, it was "inspired by" it in the same way that The Departed was "inspired by" the Whitey Bulger case. Obviously Casino is more of a direct adaptation of Casino but Scorsese butchers the names and details to fit his narrative because he's' an artist. He left out or altered so much of "Wiseguy" in Goodfellas that i'm willing to at least consider it's more accurate.
I don't think it's fair to compare Scorsese's artistic licence to a book which may be reasonable. It definitely may be trash that's what i'm trying to find out lol i'm just not going to go off the movie since i know Marty had no interest in accuately depicting anything, he was interested in his own art with these books and stories as a basis but not concrete storyline he had to follow.
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How accurate is Nicholas Pillegi's Casino? I'm aware it's not regarding Spilotro's murder but is his time in Vegas generally accurate or what? I've seen the movie obviously but i've never read the book and i'm considering doing so if it's at least somewhat accurate. Is Frank Cullota his source or is it purely newspaper articles or what?
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That movie sucked. It featured all east coast actors and not one Chicagoan such as Farina, Madsen, Montagna etc. the only one who even attempted a Chicago accent was pesci, and even that was half assed
As far as accuracy goes,no it wasn’t accurate. They couldn’t even mention Chicago outright, and that LV story in general isn’t all that interesting. The real meat on the bone & intrigue was occurring in Chicago obviously.
Also we know now that Phil Ponto was perhaps the most important straightened out guy in LV for the outfit
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I'm asking about the book which i believe used the real names and mentioned Chicago. Again i haven't read it but i'm under the impression it's very different to the movie, Scoresese says his movies were "inspired by" Pileggi's books rather than based on which is why he changed the names and elements of the story.
Unless your second and third paragraphs are referring to the book and i've misinterpreted you in which case thanks for the information?
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My apologies. I haven’t read the book either. However, with only having the film to go off of, I can only assume that the book was as trash as the film, considering one was based upon the other.
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Again though it wasn't based on it, it was "inspired by" it in the same way that The Departed was "inspired by" the Whitey Bulger case. Obviously Casino is more of a direct adaptation of Casino but Scorsese butchers the names and details to fit his narrative because he's' an artist. He left out or altered so much of "Wiseguy" in Goodfellas that i'm willing to at least consider it's more accurate.
I don't think it's fair to compare Scorsese's artistic licence to a book which may be reasonable. It definitely may be trash that's what i'm trying to find out lol i'm just not going to go off the movie since i know Marty had no interest in accuately depicting anything, he was interested in his own art with these books and stories as a basis but not concrete storyline he had to follow.