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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri May 02, 2025 12:14 pm

Again, I don’t think the majority of residents have strong feelings one way or the other.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Fri May 02, 2025 11:48 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 11:43 am I've been to Chicago plenty of times. Cities like that don't need a casino - imagine a casino in Manhattan or LA proper - surprised Chicagoans would welcome that.
Well, soon you won’t have to merely imagine a casino in Manhattan (not that it really matters here, but I’m not really a casino proponent myself and don’t gamble, so I’m not trying to do any back and forth with anyone on the merits or lack thereof of casinos in Chicago or NYC):

https://newyorkyimby.com/2025/04/hudson ... attan.html

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Fri May 02, 2025 11:43 am

Wasn't Lightfoot the one who started the Casino? From what I read, quite a hairbrained way to pay debt - and I've been to Chicago plenty of times. Cities like that don't need a casino - imagine a casino in Manhattan or LA proper - surprised Chicagoans would welcome that.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri May 02, 2025 11:39 am

I’ve seen nothing to suggest that Chicagoans have a strong feeling one way or the other.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Fri May 02, 2025 10:00 am

PolackTony wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 8:36 am Looks like every 20 years, D&P is going to prevent a Chicagoland casino from being built. Bally’s is under an obligation from the IGB to have this casino fully up and running by September of next year. Depending on how long this halt work order remains in effect now, that timeline could well wind up being infeasible now and the project DOA. I haven’t been in that area since the project began, so I don’t know how much progress has even been made on it to date.

Some of this stuff does start to get into ridiculous territory. Assuming that everything is on the up and up with contracting and that a company is actually rendering the contracted services, I personally don’t much care even if the company is connected (which I’ve never heard that the grandson even is). If they’re not breaking any laws, then it’s really no different than any other company.

But I’m not the IGB, whose whole rationale for existing is to root out even the merest whiff of mob influence in IL gaming. Looks like the issue here is that the IGB never was notified of or approved D&P as a vendor for the project, and only found out that someone there had subcontracted D&P after the Sun-Times dropped the dime on it. Unsurprisingly, the State is now shutting all work down until the State concludes an investigation of the vendors being used at the site and Bally’s can provide a revamped disclosure agreement for all contractors. Presumably, the IGB will not find any evidence of extant mob connections to D&P anyway, but again, if this process drags on, the casino could well wind up being DOA because of this.
Don't most in Chicago think the Casino was a bad idea? My opinion - if the DiFronzo family can relish in the gains of blood money, they can deal with its stench too. D&P is a multi million dollar business that became that way by beating down and bankrupting a ton of the 'little guys' who weren't willing to go up against the DiFronzos. Ask any Italian who owns any type of contracting company near a big city and isn't mobbed up how much scrutiny they get because of these companies.

I guarantee there are more mob-affiliated companies at Bally's than D&P - the Emerald Casino debacle was not that long ago and it was clear then all those guys were getting in line for pay days. That money they take is tax money - I don't get why anyone would defend them.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Fri May 02, 2025 9:42 am

NickyEyes1 wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 7:40 am Ridiculous and borderline discriminatory. The Sun Times should worry more about keeping the lights on rather than reporting legit hardworking people
Sorry but these are mob nepo kids with sweetheart contracts that aren't competing with the companies that real hardworking people are running.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by RushStreet » Fri May 02, 2025 9:25 am

funkster wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 8:42 am
NickyEyes1 wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 7:40 am Ridiculous and borderline discriminatory. The Sun Times should worry more about keeping the lights on rather than reporting legit hardworking people
Forever bothering Italians!
Mob stories are click bait. People are desperate to read anything in the paper about possible mob connected stuff.

The journalists know this and will continue to do it whenever possible.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri May 02, 2025 8:44 am

PolackTony wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 8:36 am Looks like every 20 years, D&P is going to prevent a Chicagoland casino from being built. Bally’s is under an obligation from the IGB to have this casino fully up and running by September of next year. Depending on how long this halt work order remains in effect now, that timeline could well wind up being infeasible now and the project DOA. I haven’t been in that area since the project began, so I don’t know how much progress has even been made on it to date.

Some of this stuff does start to get into ridiculous territory. Assuming that everything is on the up and up with contracting and that a company is actually rendering the contracted services, I personally don’t much care even if the company is connected (which I’ve never heard that the grandson even is). If they’re not breaking any laws, then it’s really no different than any other company.

But I’m not the IGB, whose whole rationale for existing is to root out even the merest whiff of mob influence in IL gaming. Looks like the issue here is that the IGB never was notified of or approved D&P as a vendor for the project, and only found out that someone there had subcontracted D&P after the Sun-Times dropped the dime on it. Unsurprisingly, the State is now shutting all work down until the State concludes an investigation of the vendors being used at the site and Bally’s can provide a revamped disclosure agreement for all contractors. Presumably, the IGB will not find any evidence of extant mob connections to D&P anyway, but again, if this process drags on, the casino could well wind up being DOA because of this.
Far enough along that they will likely do whatever they need to in order to get up and running again.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri May 02, 2025 8:42 am

NickyEyes1 wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 7:40 am Ridiculous and borderline discriminatory. The Sun Times should worry more about keeping the lights on rather than reporting legit hardworking people
Forever bothering Italians!

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Fri May 02, 2025 8:36 am

Looks like every 20 years, D&P is going to prevent a Chicagoland casino from being built. Bally’s is under an obligation from the IGB to have this casino fully up and running by September of next year. Depending on how long this halt work order remains in effect now, that timeline could well wind up being infeasible now and the project DOA. I haven’t been in that area since the project began, so I don’t know how much progress has even been made on it to date.

Some of this stuff does start to get into ridiculous territory. Assuming that everything is on the up and up with contracting and that a company is actually rendering the contracted services, I personally don’t much care even if the company is connected (which I’ve never heard that the grandson even is). If they’re not breaking any laws, then it’s really no different than any other company.

But I’m not the IGB, whose whole rationale for existing is to root out even the merest whiff of mob influence in IL gaming. Looks like the issue here is that the IGB never was notified of or approved D&P as a vendor for the project, and only found out that someone there had subcontracted D&P after the Sun-Times dropped the dime on it. Unsurprisingly, the State is now shutting all work down until the State concludes an investigation of the vendors being used at the site and Bally’s can provide a revamped disclosure agreement for all contractors. Presumably, the IGB will not find any evidence of extant mob connections to D&P anyway, but again, if this process drags on, the casino could well wind up being DOA because of this.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by RushStreet » Fri May 02, 2025 8:05 am

Perfet example of what many mob guys do. They use their career in organized crime to provide legit opportunities for their children so they don't have to take the same path in life. That company is a perfect example.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NickyEyes1 » Fri May 02, 2025 7:40 am

Ridiculous and borderline discriminatory. The Sun Times should worry more about keeping the lights on rather than reporting legit hardworking people

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri May 02, 2025 7:39 am

Patrickgold wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 7:20 am
Ivan wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 5:55 am Pardon my ignorance but is this firm still even mobbed up? Hard to tell from the article and search function won't let me look for D&P.
No it is not. It’s ridiculous what they are doing. It is run by Pete’s daughter with help from the grandson and son in law.
It does bring up an interesting topic though, to what degree do businesses formerly run by high ups owing large part to membership and connections that have passed on maintain outfit relationships? We know for example Paul Castellanos sons still had a money relationship with their huge businesses with the Gambinos and utilized their former connections and influence. Maybe nothing these days.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Fri May 02, 2025 7:20 am

Ivan wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 5:55 am Pardon my ignorance but is this firm still even mobbed up? Hard to tell from the article and search function won't let me look for D&P.
No it is not. It’s ridiculous what they are doing. It is run by Pete’s daughter with help from the grandson and son in law.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri May 02, 2025 6:51 am

It was a family business. Last I was aware Difronzos grandson ran it.

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